Specific question for the experts here

In the 365 game, how EXACTLY does HAL determine when a pitcher is tired?? Thanks in advance for your responses. Skip

In the 365 game, how EXACTLY does HAL determine when a pitcher is tired?? Thanks in advance for your responses. Skip

Earl Weaver goes to the mound and asks him.
Wait....wrong game, sorry.

I'm no expert Skip, but there is no "exactly", it's all a black box involving hits, baserunners allowed, pitch count and POW.

Hopefully one of the experts can explain how in a 1969 league, Mike McCormick can start and remain at F9 in game 36 after pitching 1.1 and 2 innings in relief games 35 and 34 respectively (also at F9).


https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/37 ... 969/457176

I don't know if I qualify as expert, but the short answer is there is no precise answer. The relevant rules are linked below. My best explanation is that every pitcher enters the game with a theoretical pitch count that roughly correlates to their (available) fatigue level. This based on a look back (the length of time is not clear but it seems to be three days--documentation says a "few"). Unfortunately, it does not seem to be exactly predictable. Basically, if relievers are used in consecutive games or used heavily in one game they increasingly run the risk of entering games fatigued. Then, as pitches are exhausted, they become fatigued and gradually weaken.

https://stratomatic365.fandom.com/wiki/ ... nt_Fatigue

https://stratomatic365.fandom.com/wiki/ ... ount_Rules

https://stratomatic365.fandom.com/wiki/Bullpen_v3

As far as I know, relief usage doesn't carry over into a start, but a start will carry over into relief. I know, weird.

Building off of what Steve F said and the McCormick example above, I think what Steve said seems right. It's kind of wonky because some pitchers have S and R ratings but they are treated differently. Due to pricing, using S/R pitchers in the bullpen makes less sense than having just R guys, but when those S/R guys do get put in, are they using up their S rating or their R rating? Does not really make sense because the card is the same and reality, its the same "arm."

Perhaps another way of putting it is this--why even distinguish between an S or R rating, fatigue is fatigue. The only reason is eligibility to start, which I am fine with that distinction, but if a starter gets thrown in a bullpen situation, his fatigue should be counted the same regardless.

I never have combo S/R guys in the bullpen because you're overpaying for the ability to start which you're not using. So my only experience with starters relieving is when guys from my rotation get drafted into emergency duty after the normal relievers are all used up, which indeed does not fatigue them for their next start. I assume that if you have a combo guy being used as a just a normal reliever as opposed to an emergency reliever, he fatigues the same as other relievers.