Nomination Ideas--STARTING PITCHER IMPROVEMENTS

Hi Andy
Where would the 1916 Rube Marquard stack up to his best card now?

I’ll put numbers to it when I get a chance.
At a cursory glance, about the same as 1913 but maybe a few less XBH

It will almost certainly be a non* card.


1916 Rube Marquard, PHA, Throws-L, BAL-E, S8/R5
LH--2b-0.8 3b-0.2 HR-0 BB-2 .154/.170/.165, .335 OPS
RH--2b-0.8 3b-0.2 HR-0 BB-2 .151/.167/.162, .329 OPS
Current 1913 Rube Marquard, PHA, Throws-L, BAL-E, S8*/R5
LH--2b-2.3 3b-1 HR-1.1 BB-0 .163/.163/.232, .395 OPS
RH--2b-2.3 3b-1 HR-1.1 BB-0 .160/.160/.230, .390 OPS

How about 1974 Gaylord Perry?

How about 1974 Gaylord Perry?

1974 Gaylord Perry, CLE, Throws-R, BAL-2R, S9*
LH--2b-0.3 3b-0.6 HR-2.3 BB-9 .135/.207/.218, .425 OPS
RH--2b-2.2 3b-0.8 HR-2.9 BB-7 .059/.120/.181, .302 OPS
Current 1972 Gaylord Perry, CLE, Throws-R, BAL-1R, S9*
LH--2b-3.3 3b-0.6 HR-1.8 BB-3 .144/.168/.238, .406 OPS
RH--2b-3.8 3b-1.4 HR-0.4 BB-2 .118/.135/.192, .327 OPS

Very similar to what we have, but with more dingers

How about 1974 Gaylord Perry?

1974 Gaylord Perry, CLE, Throws-R, BAL-2R, S9*
LH--2b-0.3 3b-0.6 HR-2.3 BB-9 .135/.207/.218, .425 OPS
RH--2b-2.2 3b-0.8 HR-2.9 BB-7 .059/.120/.181, .302 OPS
Current 1972 Gaylord Perry, CLE, Throws-R, BAL-1R, S9*
LH--2b-3.3 3b-0.6 HR-1.8 BB-3 .144/.168/.238, .406 OPS
RH--2b-3.8 3b-1.4 HR-0.4 BB-2 .118/.135/.192, .327 OPS

Very similar to what we have, but with more dingers

Leans righty a bit more, but yes, about the same overall

Wes Ferrell definitely needs an upgrade. A couple good options in the OP but curious about his 1935 card as that's his best year according to BBref, although maybe the difference is mostly hitting. Speaking of which, are the relevant hitting cards all 8NR?

Wes Ferrell definitely needs an upgrade. A couple good options in the OP but curious about his 1935 card as that's his best year according to BBref, although maybe the difference is mostly hitting. Speaking of which, are the relevant hitting cards all 8NR?

1935 Wes Ferrell, BOS, Throws-R, BAL-E, S8*/R5
LH--2b-2.8 3b-0.9 HR-1.3 BB-6 .214/.257/.295, .553 OPS
RH--2b-2.8 3b-0.6 HR-1.3 BB-6 .209/.253/.284, .537 OPS
1934 Wes Ferrell BOS Throws-R BAL-1L END-S9/R3-
LH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-0 .232/.232/.251 OPS-.483
RH--2b- 6.9 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-6 .208/.252/.288 OPS-.540
1930 Wes Ferrell CLE Throws-R BAL-E END-S9*/R3
LH--2b- 7.5 3b-0.0 HR-1.1 BB-9 .173/.242/.280 OPS-.521
RH--2b- 6.2 3b-0.4 HR-0.6 BB-8 .190/.250/.278 OPS-.528
1933 Current Ferrell, Wes Throws-R BAL-E END-S8*
LH--2b- 4.6 3b-1.3 HR-0.8 BB-7 .249/.298/.343 OPS-.641
RH--2b- 4.4 3b-1.3 HR-0.8 BB-7 .245/.294/.337 OPS-.631

Hitting Cards, Of the ones listed:
1930 - 5WR
1933 - 8NR
1934 - 8NR
1935 - 8NR

The 1934 card has a gbssA at 4-7, but would probably not be a *.

1957 Podres?

1957 Podres?

Seems like I studied Podres’ cards a few years back. I’ll see what I can find.

1957 Podres?

Seems like I studied Podres’ cards a few years back. I’ll see what I can find.

curious because I saw the Padres brought Podres. back in 1969.