Every One of My 13 100+ Win Teams in ATG9

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Re: Every One of My 13 100+ Win Teams in ATG9

PostSun May 01, 2022 10:24 am

Courtneylant wrote:Wait, what? don't get me wrong, i love reading about the conspiracy theories, but i feel like the algorithm strat would need for this would be way too complex. for them to alter the combination of rolls to influence win/loss outcomes starting at game 120, or when one time has too many wins, or a there are newbies in the league. no way.


Who says they have to alter it? What if it was an intended part of the code???
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Re: Every One of My 13 100+ Win Teams in ATG9

PostSun May 01, 2022 10:41 am

egvrich wrote:
Courtneylant wrote:Wait, what? don't get me wrong, i love reading about the conspiracy theories, but i feel like the algorithm strat would need for this would be way too complex. for them to alter the combination of rolls to influence win/loss outcomes starting at game 120, or when one time has too many wins, or a there are newbies in the league. no way.


Who says they have to alter it? What if it was an intended part of the code???



Also also YES!
Its pretty easy to 'normalize' after any given amount of games, as part of the code- just as you are saying.
this is not heavy stuff here-
this is a static, percentage based game, with zero graphics or sound to interface.

Could've been done even 40 years ago, with a much much much lower level of programming.
To assume it can't be done easily now, well...
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Re: Every One of My 13 100+ Win Teams in ATG9

PostSun May 01, 2022 12:02 pm

Sounds easy enough to confirm. Just track dice roles daily. You would see the % on your opponents card increase at the 120 game mark right? Unless their code also misrepresents the results.
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Re: Every One of My 13 100+ Win Teams in ATG9

PostSun May 01, 2022 2:44 pm

Nope not necessarily.
Some of the Max Rules and BP selections switch results without showing what was done.
We don't know what 100% of the true rolls were because the PBP is not 100% accurate.
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Re: Every One of My 13 100+ Win Teams in ATG9

PostMon May 02, 2022 8:13 am

FrankieT
good point.
also, there are other things that happen on top of the game engine, that can be frequency manipulated without showing
dice rolls....
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Re: Every One of My 13 100+ Win Teams in ATG9

PostMon May 02, 2022 1:24 pm

Is it possible that Nev is really Billy Beane?
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Re: Every One of My 13 100+ Win Teams in ATG9

PostMon May 02, 2022 1:33 pm

here are 83 teams that won between 100 and 104 wins in Major League Baseball, 75% of them did not win the World Series only 22 did. Billy Beane has had 2 100 win teams and 6 90+ win teams all lost in First round.

0. NL 1909 Chicago Cubs 104 49 .680 1909
NL 1910 Chicago Cubs 104 50 .675 1910
AL 1929 Philadelphia Athletics 104 46 .693 1929
NL 1942 Brooklyn Dodgers 104 50 .675 1942
AL 1946 Boston Red Sox 104 50 .675 1946
AL 1963 New York Yankees 104 57 .646 1963
AL 1984 Detroit Tigers 104 58 .642 1984
AL 1988 Oakland Athletics 104 58 .642 1988
NL 1993 Atlanta Braves 104 58 .642 1993
NL 2017 Los Angeles Dodgers 104 58 .642 2017
40. NL 1902 Pittsburgh Pirates 103 36 .741 1902
NL 1912 New York Giants 103 48 .682 1912
AL 1942 New York Yankees 103 51 .669 1942
AL 1954 New York Yankees 103 51 .669 1954
NL 1962 San Francisco Giants 103 62 .624 1962
AL 1968 Detroit Tigers 103 59 .636 1968
AL 1980 New York Yankees 103 59 .636 1980
AL 1990 Oakland Athletics 103 59 .636 1990
NL 1993 San Francisco Giants 103 59 .636 1993
NL 1999 Atlanta Braves 103 59 .636 1999
AL 2002 New York Yankees 103 58 .640 2002
AL 2002 Oakland Athletics 103 59 .636 2002
AL 2009 New York Yankees 103 59 .636 2009
NL 2016 Chicago Cubs 103 58 .640 2016
AL 2018 Houston Astros 103 59 .636 2018
AL 2019 New York Yankees 103 59 .636 2019
56. NL 1892 Boston Beaneaters 102 48 .680 1892
NL 1898 Boston Beaneaters 102 47 .685 1898
AL 1910 Philadelphia Athletics 102 48 .680 1910
AL 1930 Philadelphia Athletics 102 52 .662 1930
AL 1936 New York Yankees 102 51 .667 1936
AL 1937 New York Yankees 102 52 .662 1937
NL 1962 Los Angeles Dodgers 102 63 .618 1962
AL 1965 Minnesota Twins 102 60 .630 1965
NL 1970 Cincinnati Reds 102 60 .630 1970
NL 1974 Los Angeles Dodgers 102 60 .630 1974
NL 1976 Cincinnati Reds 102 60 .630 1976
AL 1977 Kansas City Royals 102 60 .630 1977
AL 1979 Baltimore Orioles 102 57 .642 1979
NL 1998 Houston Astros 102 60 .630 1998
AL 2001 Oakland Athletics 102 60 .630 2001
NL 2011 Philadelphia Phillies 102 60 .630 2011
AL 2017 Cleveland Indians 102 60 .630 2017
73. NL 1899 Brooklyn Superbas 101 47 .682 1899
AL 1911 Philadelphia Athletics 101 50 .669 1911
NL 1913 New York Giants 101 51 .664 1913
AL 1915 Boston Red Sox 101 50 .669 1915
AL 1928 New York Yankees 101 53 .656 1928
NL 1931 St. Louis Cardinals 101 53 .656 1931
AL 1934 Detroit Tigers 101 53 .656 1934
AL 1941 New York Yankees 101 53 .656 1941
AL 1961 Detroit Tigers 101 61 .623 1961
NL 1967 St. Louis Cardinals 101 60 .627 1967
AL 1971 Baltimore Orioles 101 57 .639 1971
AL 1971 Oakland Athletics 101 60 .627 1971
NL 1976 Philadelphia Phillies 101 61 .623 1976
NL 1977 Philadelphia Phillies 101 61 .623 1977
NL 1985 St. Louis Cardinals 101 61 .623 1985
NL 1997 Atlanta Braves 101 61 .623 1997
NL 2002 Atlanta Braves 101 59 .631 2002
AL 2003 New York Yankees 101 61 .623 2003
NL 2003 Atlanta Braves 101 61 .623 2003
AL 2004 New York Yankees 101 61 .623 2004
AL 2017 Houston Astros 101 61 .623 2017
AL 2019 Minnesota Twins 101 61 .623 2019
95. AL 1915 Detroit Tigers 100 54 .649 1915
AL 1917 Chicago White Sox 100 54 .649 1917
NL 1935 Chicago Cubs 100 54 .649 1935
NL 1940 Cincinnati Reds 100 53 .654 1940
NL 1941 Brooklyn Dodgers 100 54 .649 1941
NL 1969 New York Mets 100 62 .617 1969
AL 1977 New York Yankees 100 62 .617 1977
AL 1978 New York Yankees 100 63 .613 1978
AL 1980 Baltimore Orioles 100 62 .617 1980
NL 1988 New York Mets 100 60 .625 1988
AL 1995 Cleveland Indians 100 44 .694 1995
NL 1999 Arizona Diamondbacks 100 62 .617 1999
NL 2003 San Francisco Giants 100 61 .621 2003
NL 2005 St. Louis Cardinals 100 62 .617 2005
AL 2008 Los Angeles Angels 100 62 .617 2008
NL 2015 St. Louis Cardinals 100 62 .617 2015
AL 2018 New York Yankees 100 62 .617 2018
AL 2021 Tampa Bay Rays 100 62 .617 2021
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Re: Every One of My 13 100+ Win Teams in ATG9

PostMon May 02, 2022 1:35 pm

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Re: Every One of My 13 100+ Win Teams in ATG9

PostMon May 02, 2022 4:11 pm

Charlie you're such a spin fraud. You woulda went to the girls mexican softball leagues to find some set are numbers to paint your narrative.
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Re: Every One of My 13 100+ Win Teams in ATG9

PostMon May 02, 2022 5:37 pm

egvrich wrote:Charlie's point about building to beat your division probably does have merit, but ONLY in 12 team leagues.

I think the real test would be 24 teams leagues, since it's not nearly as relevant in 24 team leagues!

So how have 100 win teams in 24 team leagues fared could be a helpful bit of info ... :?: :idea:



I have had THREE teams win 100+ in 24 team play.

Two of them went out in the FIRST round to sub 84 win teams! One of them won a championship.

My 100+ win teams have a worse Winning % in the playoffs than my sub100 win teams. My 110+ win teams have even worse % record in post season than the either of the other two groups. So for me 110+ wins is the kiss of death....I have brought this up in previous threads over the years and each time I have been shot down. Glad to see the majority in this thread are in agreement.
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