Nomination Ideas--CATCHER IMPROVEMENTS

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muellerinwesttn

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Re: Nomination Ideas--CATCHER IMPROVEMENTS

PostSat Apr 16, 2022 1:39 pm

I'd really like to see J.Posada's best year added to the set.

In 2007, his age 36 year, he set career highs in BA, OBP, SLG and OPS+. He's slightly better versus righties that year as well. Even a little better on the road than at home. I don't know what the defense would be.
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Re: Nomination Ideas--CATCHER IMPROVEMENTS

PostSun Apr 17, 2022 4:12 pm

Rick Cerone, no card,

18 seasons usually over 200 ABs, looks like N power on bbref
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Re: Nomination Ideas--CATCHER IMPROVEMENTS

PostSun Apr 17, 2022 5:01 pm

PATRICKCASSIDY wrote:Rick Cerone, no card,

18 seasons usually over 200 ABs, looks like N power on bbref


In Hitter with Cards thread:
1980 Rick Cerone NYY Bats-R BAL-E C-1(-4)e4 INJ Risk-15
LH--2b- 8.85 3b-1.95 HR-0.5 BB-1 .305/.324/.440 OPS-.765
RH--2b- 5.1 3b-0 HR-6.5 BB-6 .315/.366/.561 OPS-.927
Finished 7th in MVP Voting, helped lead Yankees to AL East title, then apparently saw his shadow or something
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Re: Nomination Ideas--CATCHER IMPROVEMENTS

PostSun Apr 17, 2022 5:03 pm

muellerinwesttn wrote:I'd really like to see J.Posada's best year added to the set.

In 2007, his age 36 year, he set career highs in BA, OBP, SLG and OPS+. He's slightly better versus righties that year as well. Even a little better on the road than at home. I don't know what the defense would be.


That card was recently voted on:
2007 Jorge Posada, NYY, Bats-S, BAL-1R, C-2(0)e4, 1b-4e25, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-6 3b-0.8 HR-5 BB-12 2 .394/.473/.634, 1.107 OPS
RH—2b-11.1 3b-0 HR-4.2 BB-16 2 .424/.520/.688, 1.208 OPS
Current 2000 Jorge Posada, NYY, Bats-S, BAL-1L, C-2(-2)e1, 1b-4e21, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-10.9 3b-0.6 HR-4 BB-14 .381/.479/.646, 1.125 OPS
RH—2b-4.75 3b-0 HR-8 BB-28 .279/.486/.652, 1.138 OPS


He missed the cut to be added, but made the cut to be nominated for next vote.
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Re: Nomination Ideas--CATCHER IMPROVEMENTS

PostSun Apr 17, 2022 10:42 pm

andycummings65 wrote:
PATRICKCASSIDY wrote:Rick Cerone, no card,

18 seasons usually over 200 ABs, looks like N power on bbref


In Hitter with Cards thread:
1980 Rick Cerone NYY Bats-R BAL-E C-1(-4)e4 INJ Risk-15
LH--2b- 8.85 3b-1.95 HR-0.5 BB-1 .305/.324/.440 OPS-.765
RH--2b- 5.1 3b-0 HR-6.5 BB-6 .315/.366/.561 OPS-.927
Finished 7th in MVP Voting, helped lead Yankees to AL East title, then apparently saw his shadow or something

I'd definitely vote for this card!
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Re: Nomination Ideas--CATCHER IMPROVEMENTS

PostSat May 07, 2022 7:20 pm

It may sound crazy, but I'd like to see another Ken Rudolph card. We have his 1970, but in 1971, he started more games, had twice as many fielding chances and committed no errors.

But, as an added bonus, he threw out OVER 80% of runners trying to steal AND almost pretty much all of his hitting metrics in 1971 were double that of his paltry 1970 hitting stats.

Not sure what his defensive rating for 1971 was, but it should be as good or better than 1970 and he'll actually be able to get on base once in a while.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... ke01.shtml
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Re: Nomination Ideas--CATCHER IMPROVEMENTS

PostSat May 07, 2022 7:40 pm

1971 doesn't have requisite At Bats, plus he's a C-4(+1)e5
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Re: Nomination Ideas--CATCHER IMPROVEMENTS

PostSun May 08, 2022 6:52 am

andycummings65 wrote:1971 doesn't have requisite At Bats, plus he's a C-4(+1)e5


How in HAL's name is a guy who threw out 81% of would be base stealers and didn't commit an error rated a 4(+1)e5???

That makes zero sense.
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Re: Nomination Ideas--CATCHER IMPROVEMENTS

PostSun May 08, 2022 1:04 pm

egvrich wrote:
andycummings65 wrote:1971 doesn't have requisite At Bats, plus he's a C-4(+1)e5


How in HAL's name is a guy who threw out 81% of would be base stealers and didn't commit an error rated a 4(+1)e5???

That makes zero sense.


I see the same stats you see, but the rating doesn’t reflect it. May be a small sample size thing that they wouldn’t honor when creating the card.
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Re: Nomination Ideas--CATCHER IMPROVEMENTS

PostSun May 08, 2022 1:13 pm

It's probably because he didn't play much, and a "true" rating would make him better than the Cubs Starting catcher that year, tempting you to use him more in a replay.
Lets not forget, Hal Richmond designed Strat to simulate an ACTUAL season replay.
Many of the things we "don't understand" are simply a product of using the cards out of context.
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