Deja Vu League -- Season 28

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Re: Deja Vu League -- Season 23

PostTue Jun 14, 2022 4:01 pm

Available:

A. Rizzo
K. Seager
B. Bichette
J. Soler
1st Round FA Pick

Specifically looking for CF, Closer, Prospect Pick
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Re: Deja Vu League -- Season 23

PostWed Jun 15, 2022 1:01 pm

Availables prior to Draft

Closer Craig Kimbrel $5.14
Closer Edwin Diaz $3.29
CF Ramon Laureano 2e4 (-4 arm) $4.42
SP Sonny Gray $4.29
RF Nick Castellanos $5.03

Others could be available, just not actively shopping them

Looking for players, upgraded prospect picks, many things.
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Re: Deja Vu League -- Season 23

PostWed Jun 15, 2022 10:17 pm

If the league agrees, I am willing to:

- Take the crappiest team on for the 2021 seasons;
- Pay for the team credits
- Draft responsibly with a "best young player available" strategy
- Make preseason settings and lineups designed to be as competitive as possible given the roster, and publish those settings so that I don't benefit from the knowledge
- Let HAL make ALL in-season decisions (no intervention on my part to avoid tanking against my actual team)

Give the team over whenever, and as soon as, we can find a taker.

It should be more attractive next year if I draft a bunch of 20-somethings and guys having good 2022s.
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Re: Deja Vu League -- Season 23

PostThu Jun 16, 2022 9:58 am

That's a very generous offer, Padre. I'd be happy to share the cost with you, if we go that route.

I've received a number of PMs about the league, with many ideas about incentives to attract replacements. An intriguing one would be to offer an annual re-boot to any interested managers, new or old, which could go something like this...
- Any interested managers release their entire teams
- All other managers protect their top 10 players, with up to 1 of the others to be drafted in the re-boot
- Drafting teams select a maximum of 5 each from other teams
- If 2 teams are in play, that would be a total of 2 x 5 = 10 selected, 1 from each of the other teams
- If 3 teams are in play, that would be a total of 3 x 3 = 9, etc.
- Re-boot teams would then also select from the rosters that were dropped, too
- After the re-boot teams have 25-30 players each on their active rosters, then the regular free agent draft can begin, as usual

Is there any interest in pursuing a course such as this? Results would be something like...
- Each decent team gives up its 11th best player
- Re-boot teams end up with at least 3-5 solid players to build upon
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Re: Deja Vu League -- Season 23

PostThu Jun 16, 2022 10:14 am

tcochran wrote:That's a very generous offer, Padre. I'd be happy to share the cost with you, if we go that route.

I've received a number of PMs about the league, with many ideas about incentives to attract replacements. An intriguing one would be to offer an annual re-boot to any interested managers, new or old, which could go something like this...
- Any interested managers release their entire teams
- All other managers protect their top 10 players, with up to 1 of the others to be drafted in the re-boot
- Drafting teams select a maximum of 5 each from other teams
- If 2 teams are in play, that would be a total of 2 x 5 = 10 selected, 1 from each of the other teams
- If 3 teams are in play, that would be a total of 3 x 3 = 9, etc.
- Re-boot teams would then also select from the rosters that were dropped, too
- After the re-boot teams have 25-30 players each on their active rosters, then the regular free agent draft can begin, as usual

Is there any interest in pursuing a course such as this? Results would be something like...
- Each decent team gives up its 11th best player
- Re-boot teams end up with at least 3-5 solid players to build upon


Not in favor of this at all. Penalized someone for building team through draft, trades, rebuilding year, etc. and then all of a sudden lose 11th best player? Perhaps in a future year with some notice, but to put this in place now without any notice, not in favor of. I would be more incline to offer additional FA/prospect/supp picks, as has been suggested, and something I think, but cannot confirm, you have done before in another league that seemed to work well? Give extra FA picks after a couple of rounds.

Just my opinion on this.
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Re: Deja Vu League -- Season 23

PostThu Jun 16, 2022 10:29 am

lakeviewdave wrote:
tcochran wrote:That's a very generous offer, Padre. I'd be happy to share the cost with you, if we go that route.

I've received a number of PMs about the league, with many ideas about incentives to attract replacements. An intriguing one would be to offer an annual re-boot to any interested managers, new or old, which could go something like this...
- Any interested managers release their entire teams
- All other managers protect their top 10 players, with up to 1 of the others to be drafted in the re-boot
- Drafting teams select a maximum of 5 each from other teams
- If 2 teams are in play, that would be a total of 2 x 5 = 10 selected, 1 from each of the other teams
- If 3 teams are in play, that would be a total of 3 x 3 = 9, etc.
- Re-boot teams would then also select from the rosters that were dropped, too
- After the re-boot teams have 25-30 players each on their active rosters, then the regular free agent draft can begin, as usual

Is there any interest in pursuing a course such as this? Results would be something like...
- Each decent team gives up its 11th best player
- Re-boot teams end up with at least 3-5 solid players to build upon


Not in favor of this at all. Penalized someone for building team through draft, trades, rebuilding year, etc. and then all of a sudden lose 11th best player? Perhaps in a future year with some notice, but to put this in place now without any notice, not in favor of. I would be more incline to offer additional FA/prospect/supp picks, as has been suggested, and something you have done before in another league that seemed to work well (cannot recall what league that was in, either this one, SWKL or CLV)? Give extra FA picks after a couple of rounds.

Just my opinion on this.


Ditto
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Re: Deja Vu League -- Season 23

PostThu Jun 16, 2022 2:20 pm

Good memory, Dave. Yes, it was this same league, 6 years ago -- and even the same team (DinerMike's), which has had 6 managers in the past 12 seasons. For what it's worth, here is that original post:

Replacement manager needed in the Deja Vu League. CATom has abandoned a third rotten team -- and this one is the worst one (so far). See league Google doc at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1274361238

BROWNFIELD RECLAMATION PROJECT

In a desperate attempt to return to the playoffs for the first time since the league's first season (which he did), CATom traded away all of his top picks for the next two years:
1st rd pick, '15
2nd rd pick, '15
3rd rd pick, '15
1st pros '15
2nd pros '15
1st rd supp, '15
1st rd pick, '16
1st rd pros, '16
2nd rd pros, '16

In order to find a manager willing to rehabilitate the damaged CATom franchise, the league is offering the following incentives:

a. The current roster has 41 players on it, including a few diamonds-in-the-rough and a bunch a bums. The new manager may drop as many as he wishes before the annual free agent draft.

b. For the upcoming free agent draft, each of the other teams will drop players to the standard max 30/min 25 roster limits and then protect 25 of the remaining players. The new manager may then select up to one player from the unprotected players on each active roster (or from a team's drop list, if desired).

c. After keeping some of the current players and selecting up to 11 unprotected ones from the other 11 teams, the new manager may have an active roster as large as he wishes at the start of the draft (up to a max of 40).

d. For the supplemental draft in both the 2015 and 2016 card sets, the new manager may drop up to 3 players (instead of 2) and have an automatic, extra 1st pick prior to the start of the rest of the supp draft.

e. The current roster has 0 prospects and the team has no prospect picks for the next two years. An extra prospect pick will be allowed at the end of each round of the next two prospect drafts.
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Re: Deja Vu League -- Season 23

PostThu Jun 16, 2022 2:39 pm

Wow, didn't know it was that long ago, guess I didn't look back far enough. I think this team is in much better share with picks this year and next year (thought have not looked to see what has been traded away), IMO anyways. I'd still be incline in awarding additional FA/Supp/Prospect picks this year/next year at end of a couple of rounds, but many ways to go about this, if that is what everyone can agree upon.
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Re: Deja Vu League -- Season 23

PostThu Jun 16, 2022 5:18 pm

I've only received a single PM from someone who would be willing to take DinerMike's team, but he wanted significant incentives (which he acknowledged would likely be a non-starter).

Can someone propose incentives they would want the league to vote on?
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Re: Deja Vu League -- Season 23

PostFri Jun 17, 2022 12:33 am

As an observer with no skin in the game, I have to agree with Dave. Protecting no more than 10 wouldn't be fair at all, and most likely would result in a long term advantage for the new team. If I had interest, with an expectation of taking over a rebuilding team, I would be ecstatic if I were able to pluck the 21st best player from another team.
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