SP/RP

How can I set up my pitching staff so that a SP/RP (no *) can start every 5-7 games AND come in as my closer, too? I have seen it done with other teams, but HAL never seems to let me do it.
What is the secret? I promise not to tell anyone else....

Hiya.
I've had some success doing it as described below but I don't think I've done it under the new BPv3. It carries some uncertainty that I usually decide against paying for.

Caveats--
1. I am no expert on this tactic
2. If the pitcher is in their rest window it can be problematic. There is no exact way to know ahead of time when that may occur for every case, because the AI uses expected pitch count to decide, and it could result in extra rest days or pitching through a fatigued state.

Method--
a. Ensure the S/R in question is not identified in a rotation, although you may want to for the other four 5-day guys, because I don't know how the AI projects uncertainty for starter assignments.

b. Do not assign the S/R in per-game starter settings until (or if) absolutely necessary. If you have only 5 starters and all are non-*, then it isn't necessary to assign the per game starters anyway. If you have more than 5 starters, I would assign all but this pitcher in the rotation but then change the per-game assignments the night before you want the S/R in question to start.

c. Assign as closer. Although, if you want more game opportunities to pitch in relief, I would assign as another relief role too. Now with the role limit, it is...limited. But the idea would be to assign as many relief roles as possible if the guy is clearly a good arm you are trying to use maximally.

d. Monitor. Check the PbP results to track fatigue and pitch counts to get a feel for whether the pitcher is throwing while fatigued often. It may be worth it, depending on the pitcher, but it could result in a starting assignment being a fatigued state too. It could even prevent the starter from starting, forcing another reliever to get the start if very fatigued due to heavy PC.

Someone else likely knows better. I am not sure how predictably the new bullpen AI handles these situations.

Awesome, thanks! I was not waiting until the last minute to stick him in the rotation, so I'll give that a try.

I’ve done it
Here is an example with Walter Johnson
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/36 ... 292/455749
On this team he made 41 starts and another 30 relief appearances. 21-16 as a starter and 0-5 with 22 saves as a reliever

I had him set up as my number one starter. I then named my first bullpen role as closer and listed Walter there. I have tried it using the closer role further down in the order and for some reason it does not work as well. I then used relievers aggressively but set Walter to F2 or lower. And set closer to maximum.

I’ve done it
Here is an example with Walter Johnson
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/36 ... 292/455749
On this team he made 41 starts and another 30 relief appearances. 21-16 as a starter and 0-5 with 22 saves as a reliever

I had him set up as my number one starter. I then named my first bullpen role as closer and listed Walter there. I have tried it using the closer role further down in the order and for some reason it does not work as well. I then used relievers aggressively but set Walter to F2 or lower. And set closer to maximum.

Isn't he fatigued all the time if he relieves in between starts?

It’s a faster fatigue but no. He usually does OK. It depends a bit on how long the relief outing was.

So he enters the game at F9 every time? That's very different from how fatigue works in the Windows game as described in rulebook sections 27.5-6 https://stratomatic365.fandom.com/wiki/ ... ules#(27.0)_Pitcher_endurance

Does the SADV Pitcher Rest chart not apply in 365? https://i.imgur.com/k3eCmI0.png

Max I wish I could go back and look with you but the data has been lost when they archived this league. And that’s not one I actively tracked (although I probably should have). I’ll have to do it again sometime and post it

Yeah I see it's archived, that's a bummer. Only a year old too. Strat getting stingy with their storage.

Thinking about it more, times my SP have come in to relieve in a situation where my pure relievers are used up, I believe they always come in fatigued. For example: https://365.strat-o-matic.com/game/play ... 459997/971 But then they are NOT fatigued for their next start, even if it's the very next game. (Meaning rule 27.61 does not apply in 365.) So I'm guessing Johnson was fatigued for his relief appearances but fine for his starts.