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tombar3

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Re: NEW Cards Dropped

PostFri Jan 13, 2023 9:18 am

Where is the pitcher X-chart?
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MaxPower

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Re: NEW Cards Dropped

PostFri Jan 13, 2023 9:34 am

tombar3 wrote:Where is the pitcher X-chart?

https://stratomatic365.fandom.com/wiki/Charts
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Hack Wilson

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Re: NEW Cards Dropped

PostFri Jan 13, 2023 8:14 pm

I know these records are incomplete, but where is the data drawn from for the NELers? Max mentioned a good point about the Quincy Trouppe '45 card, so looked him and that particular season up on Baseball-Reference. Found this:

.184 .326 .263 .589 OPS

But Quincy's '45 card in SOM looks much better:

.230 .376 .349 .725

Baseball-Reference, I thought, had the most up-to-date and complete info on this front. Just wondering ...
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Re: NEW Cards Dropped

PostFri Jan 13, 2023 8:17 pm

Looks like a normal "buffer" to me, hitter cards always have better stats than replay because rolls off the pitcher cards will have much lower OPS.
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Re: NEW Cards Dropped

PostFri Jan 13, 2023 8:34 pm

By "buffer," you mean an attempt to boost the likely outcome for a hitter, right?

Well, these are interesting cards, a lot at the low end are probably more useful for cheap benchers and platoons. But I'm still a bit perplexed about how SOM used data (which) to create the cards. We never know, anyhow. :) Deadballers have incomplete records as well.
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Re: NEW Cards Dropped

PostFri Jan 27, 2023 9:42 am

harper34 wrote:
supertyphoon wrote:That card for Nap Gulley is unique, one of a kind.
A "three true outcomes" pitcher!


I'll call Nap Gulley and raise you a Death Valley Scott for the new "worst" in the set.

I'll sometimes do a sort of pitchers by WHIP, and the default is "descending", so it gives me the worst pitchers available. If you do that from now on, four of the five "best" WHIP that pop up are $0.50 Negro League.


Death Valley, I wonder how he got that nickname. Looking at his card, these are the positive outcomes he has (subtracting BP singles and fielding X chances) out of 108:

vs LH batters - less than 10
vs RH batters - 19

Add in the fact his hold is +9 and 48 errors allowed, I cannot envision Mr. Scott ever being used except as a last resort for theme leagues limited to NeL players, or one where the worst record takes the title.
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