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Poll ended at Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:26 pm

1. 2021 Mike Zunino TB C 1(0)e1 33 HRs in only 333 ABs! A full 8 ballpark HR chances on each side of card. Slugging percentage of .559 obliterates current Rays catchers. Would be Rays best and most expensive catcher by far. A much needed card for the catching-challenged Rays. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91832/2021/1/2021
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2. 1985 Tim Raines LF .320 .407 .425 2+2 e 2 Much better vs righties than current Raines cards
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3. 2021 Fernando Tatis Jr ss SD .282/.364/.611 31 doubles & 42 homeruns in 478 at bats. SS 2 , Has some injury risk with the card https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/94452/2021/1/2021
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4. 1943 Bill Nicholson Chicago Cubs OF .309 BA, .386 OBP, .531 slugging, 29 HR 128 RBI
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5. 1918 Lefty Tyler CHC LHP 19-8, 2.00 ERA, 2.32 FIP, 1.058 WHIP, 138 ERA+, 6.9 WAR, no hr allowed, second ace of Cub team that lost to Red Sox in WS (and used to keep Ruth out of the lineup)
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6. 1937 Dolph Camilli PHI. We have two Brooklyn cards, but 1937 for Philadelphia was his best season, with career highs in BA (337, OB 446 which led the league, SLG, 587 and OPS + 170). 1b1e9. Should be the Phillies best first baseman.
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7. 1889 Buck Ewing NYG C .327 Avg. .383 OBP .477 Slugging. Hall of Famer that was the best catcher of the 19th Century. Has a card for 1895 Cin 1B 4e14 with good offensive numbers. But made HOF as one of the original Giants @ Catcher.
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8. 2009 Chris Carpenter StL, 17-4 with league leading 2.24 era and 182era+, 1.01 WHIP in 192 IP. Only gave up 7 hrs. 6.2 WAR and 2nd in Cy Young. A quality non-* SP. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/5218/2009/1/2009
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9. 2010 Jim Thome MIN DH .283 avg - .412 obp - .627 slg 5R. This card smashes rhp like his best card but will be cheaper due to being a DH only. Would give Minnesota a Thome card and a great DH. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1141/2010/1/2010
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10. 1967 Tony Gonzalez PHI Bats-L BAL-4R 339 .396 .869 OPS LF-2(0)e3, RF-3(0)e3, CF-4(0)e3 upgrade over current cards
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11. 1989 Chris Bosio MIL SP* Gives the Brewers another 3 day starter. No card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/831113/1680/1/80
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12. 1913 Tris Speaker BOS CF -- career high in triples (22) and .441 OBP, .363 BA, 46 steals. Should be elite defense and speed.
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13. 2009 Kosuke Fukudome CHC rf-2(-2) 5R .375 OBP .421 SLG .796 OPS all star first Japanese player for baseball's oldest Franchise https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1350/2009/1/2009
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14. 1964 Jim O'Toole, 17-7, 2.66 ERA and only 8 HR's allowed in 220 IPs! plus he's a Right Handed Batter Killer featuring a 5R reverse split! Great addition for both ATG and the Reds franchise teams. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/39043/1964/4/1964
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15. 2021 Marcus Semien, Blue Jays, 2B/SS 45 HR, 102 RBI, .265, 3rd in MVP, GG, SS, AS BlueJays could use a good infield bat in franchise leagues. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91823/2021/1/2021
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16. 1974 Steve Garvey. NL MVP. Write in winner of all star vote. The beginning of the Dodgers 70s run. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/734210/1670/1/70
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17. 1932 Mickey Cochrane, catcher. 23 HR, excellent D (.993 fld%), .412 obp, 518 ab plus 100 walks should make him only a 3-game injury risk
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18. 1990 Kevin Maas, Bronx Bombers, exactly 300 PA, 8R. Go to the 90s game and look at his card for 1990 and tell me you wouldn't want that in a low cap Lefty Masher park. No Card! No Maas! https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/37317/1690/1/90
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19. 2015 Madison Bumgarner SFG SP - An amazing pitching AND hitting year. 247/275/468 with 5 HR in 81 PA, not to mention 2.93/1.01 ERA/WHIP and 9.7 K/9 https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91308/2015/1/2015
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20. 1985 Don Mattingly 1B. MVP season, .324/.371/.567 and won a Gold Glove, played 159 games https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/837655/1680/1/80
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21. 2012 John Jaso SEA C .279 .394 .456. 8R bal, great platoon catcher. Gives SEA another catching option to platoon with Wilson or Valle. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91236/2012/1/2012
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22. 1984 Dave Kingman Oakland A's .268 35Hr's 118 RBI's 44 Walks .505 SLG% American League's Comeback Player of the Year, and finished 13th in MVP balloting. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/836423/1680/1/80
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23. 1967 Adolfo Phillips OF Cubs, 448 AB 120 H 17 HR's 70 RBI .268 BA .385 OBP--I'm just a Cubs fan who loved watching Adolfo play as a kid! https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/39511/1660/1/60
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24. 1958 Harry Anderson, Lf-1b, Phillies .301, 23, 97. 11th in OPS across majors. Had two good years (6th in rookie of year in 1957) before ankle injury and trade saw him disappear from the scene by the 1960s. Unique card for 1950s which is dominated by multiples cards of same stars.
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25. 1979 John Fulgham STL RH SP 2.53 ERA 1.021 WHIP. (think he is reverse split better against lefties) 5L
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26. 1992 Mike Mussina BAL RH SP 18-5, 2.54 ERA 1.079 WHIP, 241 IP. Probably the best season for this HOFer.
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27. 2003 Richie Sexson MIL, Bats-R, BAL-1L, 1b-2e11, BULLETPROOF, 45 HR, 124 RBI, .272/.379/.548, .927 OPS https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1054/1700/1/120
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28. 2006 Anibal Sanchez Florida SP 2.83era 1.19whip ROY-9 A nice addition for the Marlins! https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90513/1700/1/120
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29. 1986 Danny Cox STL 220 IP, 12-13, 2.90 ERA, 1.132 Whip, better card than his 1987 .50 https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/32485/1986/1/101
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30. 2021 Zack Wheeler PHI RH SP 14-10 213.1 IP 247 so 46 bb 2.78 ERA 1.01 WHIP https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91932/2021/1/2021
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31. 1984 Dan Gladden SF cf-2(0)e6 .351/.408/.447. I’ve gotten his 84 season a few times in the 80’s game and he always puts up great numbers over an entire season. Nice add for the exp-era Giants! https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/834398/1680/1/80
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32. 2009 Javier Vazquez ATL SP - 2.87 ERA 1.026 WHIP. Vazquez and Radke are by far the best post-1900 players without a card. This is Vazquez's best card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/8190/2009/1/2009
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33. 2005 Michael Young TEX. SS. Unlike his current cards, his primary position is SS. .331/.385/.513. He had 40 doubles and 24 home runs. Had a OPS of .898 vs lefties and .900 vs righties. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1269/1700/1/120
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34. 2017 Pat Neshek (3R) COL. RP-R1: Gives the Rockies another good relief pitcher. https://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/p ... 017/1/2017
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35. 1983 Rudy Law CF/LF CWS no card in set L-2L .283/.340/.369 77 sb's. lead off hitter on 1983 division winning White Sox: https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/836855/1680/1/80
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36. 1916 Wilbur Cooper, Pirates S/R LHP 12-11 1.87 1.069 Career bests in ERA, H9, SO9. Near career bests in WHIP, HR9. Pirates could always use more SP. 216-178 career record with some pretty bad Pirates teams, so worthy of a better card. Has just one lousy ATG9 card.
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37. 1980 Buddy Bell, Texas .329 17 83 .379 .498 .877 Gold Glove Career high in BA, SLG, OPS & OPS+. 2nd career high in OBP. This is Bell’s best card. Gives Texas a nice 3B option in franchise leagues when they don’t get A-Rod or Beltre http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/830734/1680/1/80
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38. 1976 Bill Robinson Pirates, Bats-R BAL-3L .303 21 64 .329 .534 .864 Career highs in SLG, OPS & OPs+. Near career highs in BA & OBP. LF/RF-2(0)e2, CF-3(0)e2, 1b-4e13, 3b-4e44. A career journeyman and late bloomer, Robinson found a home with the Pirates, and was a valuable member of the team for 7+ seasons, playing multiple positions. This card is a big improvement over his other ATG card. http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/740221/1670/1/70
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39. 2003 Mike Lieberthal, PHI, C, E slant, .313/.373./.453, more playable than his 5L '99 season already in the set. 14-year career, 1,170 games behind the plate, deserves more than one card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/655/1700/1/120
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40. 2021 Shohei Ohtani LAA DH/SP MVP two-way star
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41. 1963 Elston Howard, C. AL MVP. .287/.342/.528. 5 errors and 8 passed balls in 132 games for AL champions. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/35630/1660/1/60
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42. 1939 Terry Moore STL Bats-R BAL-E CF/LF/RF-1(0)e2 INJ Risk-15
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43. 2009 Shin-Soo Choo CLE OF - 20/20 hitter with a .300 avg. Plays all 3 OF spots (4 in CF). Provides a solid LH Bat in RF for expansion era Cleveland. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1335/2009/1/2009
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44. 1983 LaMarr Hoyt 24-10 1.02 WHIP AL Cy Young Award winner. Hoyt is currently represented by only his far inferior 1984 season, when he was the main reason why the White Sox lead the majors with 99 wins in 1983. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/835661/1680/1/80
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45. 1993 Gregg Jefferies, S, 1B StL., .342/.408/.485, Nice switch hitting small ball option for the EXP Cards https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3784/1690/1/90
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46. 1997 Denny Neagle ATL SP(L) 2R / 20-5 2.97 1.08 / 3rd in Cy Young . Would give ATL(exp) franchise another LH option besides Glavine or Avery. NO CARD in set. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3811/1690/1/90
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47. 2000 Andruw Jones, RHB, Braves, CF 1(-3)e2 .303 36 104 .366 .541 .907 21 SBs. Career highs in HITS, BA, OBP, TB, PA and 2nd career highs for SLG, OPS & OPS+. Gold Glove winner. A true 5 tool player. In game injury only. While the current 2005 Jones has more power and slightly higher OPS, the 2000 card is more usable, as it has a far higher BA and higher OBP, which will keep the line moving and the rallies alive more than the 2005 all or nothing card.
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48. 1977 Gene Tenace. He led the league in walks and hbp that year. 4 on Defense, but also plays 1b and 3b. He played 893 games at catcher and 627 at first base, and finished with 46.8 WAR. The current 1973 card is probably his fourth best. The 1977 card is an onbase machine and will be oft used at catcher. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/41940/1977/5/1977
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49. 1963 Albie Pearson, .304 BA, .402 OBP, 2's across the OF. Much-needed budget-priced LH CF with speed and glove. Starting AL CF in '63 ASG. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/39358/1660/1/60
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50. 1886 Henry Boyle SP SLM(NL) 1.76 era 1.09 whip 210 IP 2R S9*(?)
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23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostFri Mar 03, 2023 12:26 pm

Greetings,

Poll is up for the 23.1 new card add.

Andy's Strat Stats posted at the link below. Please take time to check them out before voting.

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Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostFri Mar 03, 2023 6:10 pm

Stumping for John Jaso. An 8R lefty stick at Catcher with passable defense for probably around the $1.50M-$2M range would be a beautiful, beautiful thing. If you vote for Maas, you should vote for Jaso for the same reasons. Thank you.

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Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostFri Mar 03, 2023 9:43 pm

I like Jaso, but I don't think we will get him in that price range.

Since we're stumping for catchers, the Rays can really use Mike Zunino. Their best catcher is Navarro at 2.67.
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Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostFri Mar 03, 2023 9:46 pm

1913 Tris Speaker BOS CF -- career high in triples (22) and .441 OBP, .363 BA, 46 steals. Should be elite defense and speed.

From the "informed decisions" thread, defense is CF/LF/RF-1(-4)e25. Elite? No.

25 errors is way too much. I cannot see anyone choosing this Speaker card over his others. Please use your vote for someone else more deserving.
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Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostSat Mar 04, 2023 12:00 pm

hollywood wrote:
1913 Tris Speaker BOS CF -- career high in triples (22) and .441 OBP, .363 BA, 46 steals. Should be elite defense and speed.

From the "informed decisions" thread, defense is CF/LF/RF-1(-4)e25. Elite? No.

25 errors is way too much. I cannot see anyone choosing this Speaker card over his others. Please use your vote for someone else more deserving.


That is a dreadful lot of errors. He'd need an arm that good just recovering all the balls that got through him.

When voting, I favor the guys with no cards. I also play primarily the low-cap formats, and so new "pieces and parts" are always most welcome.

From that perspective, we desperately need more lefty hitting SS with low salaries, but I'm not sure many exist. '66 Dick McAuliffe would be a nice add as a hitter, but the defense might be too shaky.
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Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostSat Mar 04, 2023 12:10 pm

1966 McuAliffe looks pretty good as a 3bman though! :)
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Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostSun Mar 05, 2023 8:31 am

I like that McAuliffe card as a lefty 3b. Good power and OBP.

Glad to see the early support for the holdover 2000 Andruw Jones card. Plays much differently than his 2005 version. He deserves a second card with the career he had.
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Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostSun Mar 05, 2023 10:17 am

My pitch for Gene Tenace. A catcher who is an on-base machine. From Mr. Cummings projections:

1977 Gene Tenace, SD, Bats-R, BAL-2R, C-4(+1)e7, 1b-3e5, 3b-4e41, 15 Game INJ Risk (Only 1 INJ Rating)

LH—2b-5 3b-0 HR-3.5 BB-31 .126/.425/.344, 0.770 OPS
RH—2b-4.1 3b-1.4 HR-4 BB-38 .250/.556/.545, 1.101 OPS


There are many cards we vote in that simply aren't played. This card will be used often!
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Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostSun Mar 05, 2023 11:17 am

And Tenace would be a nice addition for the Padres, as they don't have a lot of options at catcher...
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Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostSun Mar 05, 2023 9:46 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the deadball era players' error ratings "normalized" to play across eras in SOM? So the 1913 Speaker would have a much better "e" rating than e25.

Tris' 1912 card has an e4 rating, but he actually had 18 errors that year. I also see where the 1906 Nap Lajoie has an e11 rating, but in real life he actually had 21 errors at 2B that year. I could go on, but seems this is the case.

If so, yes, vote for Tris! :D
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