ATG9 23.2 new card nominations are open - Recommendations

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ATG9 23.2 new card nominations are open - Recommendations

PostThu May 18, 2023 9:17 pm

Here's the link to nominate new cards:

https://forum-365.strat-o-matic.com/com ... 6d2af4d508

These will be the second set of new cards elected during 2023.

Please note the usage parameters for nominations -

Minimums:
300 PA
100 IP Starters
50 IP Relievers

I recommend the following worthy players for consideration, in no particular order. You can just copy and paste your choice onto the nomination list.

CATCHERS

1983 Jody Davis, Cubs .271 24 84 .315 .480 .795 Career highs in H, HR, BA, SLG, OPS, OPS+ & TB. Long time Cubs catcher would be a big improvement over fan favorite Randy Hundley in the Post WWII & Expansion Era player set and would be a decent platoon partner with Rick Wilkins in franchise leagues.
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/832824/1680/1/80


1985 Rich Gedman, Red Sox, C 3(-3)e10 Bats L 5R .295 18 80 .362 .484. .846. Career highs in HITS, BA, DO, RBI & OPS. This is easily the best season for the longtime BoSox backstop. Big improvement over his other ATG card.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/834244/1680/1/80

THIRD BASEMEN

1980 Buddy Bell, Texas .329 17 83 .379 .498 .877 Gold Glove. Career highs in BA, SLG, OPS & OPS+. 2nd career high in OBP. This is Bell’s best card. Gives Texas a nice 3B option in franchise leagues when they don’t get A-Rod or Beltre http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/830734/1680/1/80


1979 Bob Horner, Braves .314 33 98 .346 .552 .898 Career highs in BA, HITS, SLG, RBI, TB. 2nd career high in HR, OPS & OPS+. 4e31.
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/835583/1680/1/80

1983 Bob Horner, Braves .303 20 68 .383 .528 .911 Career highs in DO, OBP, OPS & OPS+. 2nd career highs in BA. 4e17.

These Horner cards are good hitting cards, but are probably more suited for DH than 3B.


1981 Carney Lansford, Red Sox 3B .336 4 52 .389 .439 .828 AL batting champ & Silver Slugger in strike shortened season. Career highs in BA, OPS. 2nd career high in OBP.

1989 Carney Lansford, A's 3B .336 2 52 .398 .405 .803 Career high in OBP, tied career high in BA. Highest BA for an A's player in the 50+ seasons playing in spacious Oakland Coliseum dating back to 1968.


1982 Toby Harrah, Indians 3B 3e13 .304 25 78 .398 .490 .879 17 SB Career highs in BA, SLG, DO, OPS & OPS+. 2nd career high in HR. Bulletproof! I can't count the times Harry Caray reminded listeners that Harrah was spelled the same forward & backward!
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/34980/1982/2/1982


1987 Brook Jacoby, Indians .300 32 69 .387 .541 .928 Career highs in BA, HR, SLG, OPS & OPS+. 2nd career high in DO.
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/835855/1680/1/80


1990 Kelly Gruber, Blue Jays .274 31 118 .330 .512 .842 Career highs in every major offensive category except BA, where it was his 2nd career high. Gold Glove, Silver Slugger.
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/834729/1680/1/80


2012 Aramis Ramirez Brewers, 3B 3e8 4L .300 27 105 .360 .540 .900 Led NL with career high 50 DO. Near career high in TB. Gives Brewers an upgrade at 3B in franchise leagues. Slugged 386 career HRs with 1417 RBI, so is worthy of another card. Has one other card with Cubs with no D.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/938/2012/1/20714


1977 Don Money, Brewers, 3B 2e25, Bats R .279 25 83 .348 .470 .819 Career highs in HR, RBI. Near career highs in most other offensive categories.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/38385/1977/5/1977


FIRST BASEMEN

2008 Kevin Youkilis, Red Sox, 1B 1e6, 3B 3e17 RHB .312 29 115 .312 .390 .569 .959. Career highs in HITS, BA, DO, HR, RBI, SLG, TB.
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1262/2008/1/20714


1925 Jim Bottomley, Cardinals, 1B, bats L. .367 21 128 .413 .992. Led NL in games played, HITS and DO. Career highs in HITS and DO. Near career highs in games played, BA, RBI, SLG, TB, OBP, OPS & OPS+. This card has higher BA and OBP than Bottomley's 1928 card and would be perfect for smallball, similar to 1921 George Sisler, but with a little more power.


2000 Mike Sweeney, Royals 1B 4e13, Bats R .333 29 144 .407 .523 .930 Career highs in G, PA, H, R, HR, RBI, BB, HBP, TB. Near career highs in BA, OPS, SLG. Very underrated. Sweeney, not George Brett, holds the Royals single season record for RBI. Unlike his injury prone 2002 card, this card is in game injury only.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1119/1700/1/120


MIDDLE INFIELDERS

2010 Alexei Ramirez RHB, White Sox, SS 1e21 .282 18 70 .313 .431 .744. Career high in RUNS. Near career highs in HITS, BA, HR, SLG, OPS & OPS+. Silver Slugger. Gives the expansion White Sox an option for better D and more power at SS. No ATG card.
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1394/2010/1/20714


1969 Mark Belanger, Orioles, SS 2e26, .287 2 50 .351 .345 .696 Career highs in HITS, RBI, BA, OPS; Gold Glove
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/730727/1670/1/70

1971 Mark Belanger, Orioles, SS 1e18, .266 0 35 .365 .320 .685 Career high in OBP. Near career highs in HITS, R, BA, TB, OPS & OPS+; Gold Glove. Belanger’s best overall card, since the 1969 card is a 2.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/30727/1971/4/1971


2000 Ron Hansen , White Sox, SS 2 e22, Bats R .261 20 68 .347 .419 .766 Career highs in PA, BA, H, R, 2B, HBP, TB, OPS+. Near career highs in G, HR, RBI, BB, OPS, SLG. 1964 Hansen holds the White Sox single season record for defensive WAR, yet is just a 2 on D. Very underrated. This is a big improvement over Hansen's other ATG card and would give the Post WWII White Sox some power at SS.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/34928/1964/4/1964


1970 Denis Menke, Astros, Bats R 1b-4e5, 2b-3e8, SS-3e40, 3b-3e65, LF/RF-4(+2)e16 .304 13 92 .392 .441 .833 Career highs in every major offensive category.
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/738125/1670/1/70


1971 Cookie Rojas , Royals, 2b 2e8, Bats R .300 6 59 .357 .406 .763 Career highs in OBP, SLG, OPS, OPS+. Near career highs in BA, HR, RBI. 4x All Star at 2B. Would give the Royals a 2nd base option besides Frank White.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/40310/1971/4/1971


1982 Damaso Garcia, Blue Jays, Bats R, 2b 1e18, .310 5 42 .338 .399 .737 54 SB. Career highs in BA, R, H, 2B, SB, OBP, TB, SLG, OPS, OPS+. Long time Blue Jays 2nd baseman is worthy of his best card. Would help the Blue Jays in franchise leagues.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/34161/1982/2/1982


1982 Frank White, Royals, Bats R, 3L 2b 1 e20, Bats R, .298 11 56 .318 .469 .787 Career highs in BA, H, 2B (45!), 3B, OPS, OPS+. Near career highs in R, OBP & TB. Gold glove. Long time Royals 2nd baseman is worthy of his best card. Would help the Royals in franchise leagues.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/42837/1982/2/1982


2005 Brian Roberts, Orioles, 2b1 e10, Bats S, 3R .314 18 73 .387 .515 .903 27 SB Career highs in BA, HR, OBP, TB, SLG, OPS, OPS+. Near career highs in H, 2B, 3B & RBI. Would give the Orioles a nice 2nd base and lead off option in franchise leagues, where they usually don't get Alomar.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/983/1700/1/120


2016 Jean Segura, Diamonbacks, 2b 1e6, Bats R, 3R .319 20 64 .368 .499 .867, 33 SB. Career highs in BA, R, H, 2B, HR, RBI, OBP, TB, SLG, OPS, OPS+. Near career highs in triples and stolen bases. Would help the Diamondbacks in franchise leagues. No card
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91626/2016/1/2016


OUTFIELDERS

1973 Davey May, Brewers CF, 2(-2)e10. Bats L .303 25 93 .352 .473 .824 Career highs in virtually every offensive category. Led AL in total bases. A good lefty bat alternative in CF to low BA/OBP Gorman Thomas for the Brewers in franchise leagues.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/737681/1670/1/70


1984 Chili Davis, Giants, bats both, CF, RF 2(-1)e13 .315 21 81 .368 .507 .875 Near career highs in a number of major offensive categories. Davis was a 5 tool player while with the Giants, but when leg injuries slowed him down, went to the AL as a DH. Belted 350 HRs during his career and has just one lousy card.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/802864/1680/1/80


2000 Carl Everett, Red Sox, bats both, CF 2(-2)e8 .300 34 108 .373 .587 .959 career highs in 3B, HR, RBI, SLG, TB. Near career highs in R, 2B, BA, BB, OBP, OPS & OPS+. Everett's 1999 was a little better offensively, but that card has a bad injury number, so 2000 it is!
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3743/1700/1/120


1974 Ken Henderson, White Sox CF 2(-2) .292 20 95 .360 .467 .827 Career highs in G, H, 2B, HR, RBI, SLG & OPS+. Near career high in 3B & OPS. Led AL in games (all 162) and AL CFers in PO. Henderson was a fine OFer and hitter who was slowed by knee problems throughout his career. He has just one lousy card.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/735212/1670/1/70


1968 Willie Mays, Giants .289 23 79 .372 .488. At 37 years of age, father time had begun to take his toll on the great Say Hey Kid, but even at his advanced age in the year of the pitcher, Mays put up good enough numbers to rank among the league leaders in most offensive categories. Mays played in 148 games and won his last Gold Glove. While technically not an improvement over his other cards, wouldn't it be great to have this very good and lower priced Mays card to play CF for the Giants in expansion franchise leagues?
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/37703/1660/1/60


1979 Gary Mathews, RHB, Braves, RF 3(0)e8 .304 27 90 .363 .502 .865 Career highs in H, 2B, HR, RBI, BA, SLG, TB, OPS & OPS+. Near career highs in R & SB. In game injury only. This card would be a big improvement over Matthews' other cards.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/737646/1670/1/70


1978 Jack Clark Giants RF 3(-2) Bats R 2L .306 25 98 .358 .537 .895 15 SBs. Full season career high in Hits, DO, TR, BA, TB & SBs. Near career highs in Runs and SLG. Check out all the extra base hits on this card! Doesn't have all the walks of the other Clark cards, but has lots more hits.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/732095/1670/1/70


1976 Bill Robinson Pirates, Bats-R BAL-3L .303 21 64 .329 .534 .864 Career highs in SLG, OPS & OPs+. Near career highs in BA & OBP. LF/RF-2(0)e2, CF-3(0)e2, 1b-4e13, 3b-4e44. A career journeyman and late bloomer, Robinson found a home with the Pirates, and was a valuable member of the team for 7+ seasons, playing multiple positions. This card is a big improvement over his other ATG card.
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/740221/1670/1/70


1974 Willie Stargell, Pirates, LHB, LF 3(-4 )e11 1B 4e15 .301 25 96 .407 .537 Career bests in BB & OBP. Near career bests in H, 2B, BA, OPS & OPS+. Led NL in OPS and OPS+. Besides having less power than other Stargell cards, this is a different type of Stargell card, as it is about the only Stargell card that hits lefties as well as righties. It was the last year that Stargell was a 3 in LF. Being rated at first base is a nice bonus.


1984 Jeffrey Leonard SF Bats-R BAL-4L LF-1(-2)e10, CF/RF-2(-2)e10 INJ Risk-15 .302 21 86 .357 .484 Career highs in PA, H, R, SLG, TB, OPS & OPS+. Near career highs in BA, OBP, HR, RBI, 2B, SB. This was his best all around season. Plus, who can forget "Hacman's" legendary "one flap down" HR trot? Immortals Vin Scully & Joe Garagiola make the call:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HLZ9FjcoXU
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/836987/1680/1/80


2013 Yasiel Puig, RF, Dodgers, .319 19 42 .391 .534 .925. Career highs in BA, OBP, SLG, OPS & OPS+. RF 2(-5)e9 This card is far better than Puig’s current card.
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91812/2013/1/20714


1999 Henry Rodriguez, Cubs, LF 4(+1)e9 Bats-L, 3R. .304 26 87 .381 .544 .925. Career highs in BA, BB, OBP, OPS & OPS+. Near career highs in 2B, HR, RBI, SLG & TB. Cubs need some lefty sticks. Would be a good DH vs. RHPs. No card.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3652/1999/1/1999


1980 Dusty Baker Dodgers, LF 2(-1) e3, RF 3(-1) e3, Bats R. .294 29 97 .339 .503 .842 Career highs in TR, TB. Near career highs in H, DO, HR, RBI, SLG, OPS, OPS+. Silver Slugger.

1968 Ken Harrelson, Red Sox, RHB, RF 4(-1)e0, 1b 4e25, best at DH, 2R .275 35 109 .356 .874 Career highs in every major offensive category. Led AL in RBI, and was in the AL top 10 in about a dozen offensive categories. Easily Harrelson's best season, in the year of the pitcher. MLB lowered the mound by 5 inches after the season. Good card considering the numbers. Has just one lousy card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/34987/1660/1/60


PITCHERS

1985 Bob Welch, Dodgers, RHSP 14-4 2.31 1.052 Career bests in WHIP & BB9. 2nd career bests in ERA & H9.

1978 Bob Welch, Dodgers, RHSP 7-4 2.02 1.060 Career bests in ERA, H9 & HR9. 2nd career bests in WHIP & BB9.
Who can forget this electric, epic 5 minute confrontation between Reggie Jackson and the late Bob Welch from the '78 World Series? Mr. October sure never got cheated on his rips! Great commentary from Tony Kubek, Joe Garagiola & Tom Seaver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26fRnCj4SYQ&t=8s


1971 Joe Grzenda, LHRP, Senators, 5-2 1.92 1.009 3R Career bests in ERA, WHIP, H9, W9, BB9, SO9, SO/BB ratio. Grzenda was a mediocre lefty specialist and fringe major leaguer his entire career, who at the age of 34 put together one magical season. Texas could use a good lefty relief pitcher. No ATG card.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/34732/1971/4/1971


1984 Alejandro Pena, RHSP, Dodgers 12-6 2.48 1.164 Led N.L. in ERA and ShO. Career bests in GS, W, IP, ShO, HR9, K and BB/9. Pena blew out his arm the following year, but reinvented himself as a pretty good relief pitcher. No ATG card.


1971 Ken Forsch, Astros RHSR 8-8 2.53 1.142 S/R. Career bests as a SP in ERA & H9. 2nd career best in WHIP. At 3L, Forsch is a good reverse RHP. Just 1 ATG card
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/33914/1971/4/1971


1978 Bob Knepper, Giants LHSP, 2R. 17-11 2.63 1.165 Career bests in WINS & HR9. Second career bests in ERA, H9, with near career low WHIP. This would be Knepper's best Giants card and the expansion Giants can always use pitching.
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/736507/1670/1/70

1981 Bob Knepper, Astros. LHSP, 4L. 9-5 2.18 1.060 Career bests in ERA, WHIP, H9 & HR9 in strike shortened season. This would be Knepper's best Astros card.


1981 Burt Hooton, Dodgers, RHSP 11-6 2.28 1.103 Career bests in ERA, BB9 & HR9 in strike shortened season. Hooton was renowned for his signature pitch, the knucklecurve.


1988 Joe Magrane, Cardinals, LHSP 5-9 2.18 1.113 Hard luck Magrane led N.L. in ERA. Career bests in ERA, WHIP & H9. Just 1 ATG card.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/37390/1690/1/90


1943 Max Lanier, Cardinals, LHSP 15-7 1.90 Career best ERA & W-L%. Led NL in ERA.
http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/587c5c76


1989 Jose DeLeon, Cardinals, RHSP 16-12 3.05 1.034 Career bests in GS, W, W%, WHIP, IP, BB9. Near career bests in H9 & HR9. Led NL in H9. Had great stuff, but lacked focus and consistent command of his pitches. His best season. No ballpark hits against righty batters. No card.
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/832927/1680/1/80


1974 Bart Johnson CWS, RHSP 10-4 2.74 1.12whip. RHP, 4R. Career bests in ERA, WHIP, BB/9, HR/9, SO/BB ratio. Near career best in H9. Would be a nice addition for the Exp-era White Sox, who could use more righty starting pitching. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/735942/1670/1/70


1968 Pat Jarvis, Braves, RHSP, E. 16-12 2.60 0.981 Career bests in ERA, WHIP, H9 & BB9. Just 1 ATG card.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/35886/1660/1/60


1964 Bob Veale, Pirates, LHSP, 2L. 18-12 2.74 1.237 Near Career bests in ERA, WHIP, H9 HR9 & BB9. Led league in Ks. Veale had other seasons with better numbers, but this is his best card and would help the pitching starved Pirates. Just 1 ATG card.
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/42395/1660/1/60


1905 Nick Altrock, White Sox, LHSP 23-12 1.88 1.068 Career bests in Wins, ERA, H9. Near career bests in WHIP, HR9, SO9. No card.


1917 Pol Perritt, Giants, LHSP 17-7 1.88 1.074 Career bests in ERA, H9. Near career bests in W, WHIP, HR9, BB9 SO/BB. No card.


1916 Lefty Tyler, Braves, LHSP 17-9 2.02 1.035 Career bests in WHIP, H9, BB9, SO/W. Near career bests in W, ERA, SO9. No card


1902 Bill Bernhard, Indians, RHSP 18-5 2.15 0.942 Career bests in WHIP, H9. Near career bests in W, ERA, BB9, HR9. This would be an improvement over Bernhard's other cards.


1888 Charlie Buffinton, Phillies, RHSP 28-17 1.91 0.957 Career bests in ERA, WHIP, H9, HR9. Near career bests BB9. No card.


1945 Dutch Leonard, Senators, RHSP 17-7 2.13 1.125 Led AL in SO/W. Career bests in ERA, WHIP, HR9, SO/BB. Near career bests in W, BB9, SO9. This would be an improvement over Leonard's other card. Note that this is a different player than 1914 $12.21 mil Dutch B. Leonard, who is a LHSP.
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Re: ATG9 23.2 new card nominations are open - Recommendation

PostFri May 19, 2023 2:44 pm

What's the story on the shortened 2020 season? Will guys like Juan Soto or Freddie Freeman get penalized in ATG?
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Re: ATG9 23.2 new card nominations are open - Recommendation

PostFri May 19, 2023 2:45 pm

hollywood wrote:What's the story on the shortened 2020 season? Will guys like Juan Soto or Freddie Freeman get penalized in ATG?

Yes
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Re: ATG9 23.2 new card nominations are open - Recommendation

PostFri May 19, 2023 7:26 pm

Great post …. If I can add a few names to the potential list no years attached but just some players I think could use an extra card. All between 1990-present day

C- yadier Molina , Jason Varitek , Russell Martin , Javier Lopez
1b - Jeff Bagwell , David Ortiz , Jason Giambi , Carlos Delgado , Ryan Howard , Prince Fielder , Paul Goldschmidt ,Adrian Gonzalez, Derek Lee
2b- Chuck Knoblauch , Dustin Pedroia , Ian Kinsler , Jason Kipnis , Jose Altuve
Ss- Jose Reyes , Jimmy Rollins
3b - David Wright , Scott Rolen
OF- Ryan Braun , JD Martinez , Adam Dunn , Johnny Damon , Matt Stairs , Nelson Cruz , Mookie Betts , Jacoby Elsburry , Matt Kemp, Giancarlo Stanton , Carlos Lee , Jermaine Dye , Maglio Ordonez , Yordan Alvarez
Sp - Jacob Degrom , Jake Peavy , Tim Hudson , Cole Hamels , Chris Carpenter, Kerry Wood , Bartolo Colon, Barry Zito , Ching Ming Wang, Dice K Matzuaka
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Re: ATG9 23.2 new card nominations are open - Recommendation

PostSun May 21, 2023 2:15 pm

Added recommendations for 1982 Frank White, 1982 Damaso Garcia and 2005 Brian Roberts under the middle infielder category.

Also recommended 2016 Jean Segura, who has no card, under the middle infielder category.

White, Garcia, Roberts and Segura are all rated 1 defensively at 2B and the recommended cards are their best seasons.
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Re: ATG9 23.2 new card nominations are open - Recommendation

PostThu May 25, 2023 6:14 pm

Added 1980 Dusty Baker and updated Jose DeLeon's description.

34 of the 41 nominations are filled as of this posting, so only a handful of spots left.
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Re: ATG9 23.2 new card nominations are open - Recommendation

PostSat May 27, 2023 1:26 pm

Added 1968 Ken Harrelson to the OFers list, though he would be best at DH.

As of this writing, there are still 4 spots left for nominations.

https://forum-365.strat-o-matic.com/com ... 7&start=50
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Re: ATG9 23.2 new card nominations are open - Recommendation

PostSat May 27, 2023 10:31 pm

We don't have every card yet for the last 125 years?
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Re: ATG9 23.2 new card nominations are open - Recommendation

PostSun May 28, 2023 9:29 am

Just added this: 1905 Honus Wagner, PIT, SS -- One of his better years and plus-600 ABs, so limited injury risk: .363 .427 .505 32 doubles, 14 triples, 57 stolen bases. Surely SOM would normalize his error ratings like the '08 card. Second highest BA of his career.

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