ANDY's BOS ALTERNATE HISTORY 1.0

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Re: ANDY's BOS ALTERNATE HISTORY 1.0

PostMon Jul 03, 2023 12:32 pm

max_fischer wrote:ANDYS BOS ALT1.0 Season #9 Draft


BOSTON RED SOX (owenatkinson17) - 0 GA - Jackie Jensen OF
BROOKLYN DODGERS (sebtay41) - 0 GA - Roy Campanella C
CHICAGO WHITE SOX (max_fischer) - 0 GA - Minnie Minoso LF
CINCINNATI REDS (Ejohn77) - 1 GA - Wally Post and Gus Bell
CLEVELAND INDIANS (bkrotee) - 0 GA - Satchel Paige SP
DETROIT TIGERS (Hamilton19) - 0 GA - Charlie Maxwell OF
NEW YORK GIANTS (Hittmens) - 1 GA - Willie Mays CF
NEW YORK YANKEES (watsonjamey) - 0 GA - Mickey Mantle CF
PHILADELPHIA ATHLETICS (ballpark Frank) - 0 GA - Bobby Shantz SP
ST LOUIS BROWNS (PETERLE) - 1 GA - Cal Abrams OF
ST LOUIS CARDINALS (barterer2002) - 0 GA - Paul LaPalm RP
WASHINGTON SENATORS (Andycummings) - 0 GA -


Piersall, Jim 9 13 CF/RF BOS
Runnels, Pete 9 13 2b/1b BOS WAS
White, Sammy 9 12 C BOS
Bridges, Rocky 9 12 IF CIN
Burgess, Smoky 9 13 C CIN
Collum, Jackie 9 12 SP CIN
Landrith, Hobie 9 12 C CIN
McMillan, Roy 9 13 SS CIN
Podbielan, Bud 9 11 RP CIN
Ridzik, Steve 9 13 RP CIN
Smith, Frank T. 9 11 RP CIN
Klippstein, Johnny 9 13 RP CIN WAS
Brideweser, Jim 9 11 UT CWS
Busby, Jim 9 12 OF CWS
Byrd, Harry 9 11 SP CWS
Carrasquel, Chico 9 11 SS CWS
Consuegra, Sandy 9 11 RP CWS WAS
Donovan, Dick 9 13 SP CWS
Dropo, Walt 9 12 1B CWS BOS
Harshman, Jack 9 12 SP CWS
Lown, Turk 9 12 RP CWS
Martin, Morrie 9 11 RP CWS
Nieman, Bob 9 12 OF CWS DET
Boone, Ray 9 12 3B DET
Ginsberg, Joe 9 12 C DET
Hatfield, Fred 9 11 IF DET
Bauer, Hank 9 12 OF NYY
Cerv, Bob 9 12 OF NYY
Coleman, Jerry 9 11 2B NYY
Collins, Joe 9 11 1B NYY
Demaestri, Joe 9 12 IF NYY
Ford, Whitey 9 13 SP NYY
Mapes, Cliff 9 10 OF NYY
Martin, Billy 9 12 2B/3B NYY
McDermott, Mickey 9 12 SP NYY
McDougald, Gil 9 12 2B/SS/3B NYY
Morgan, Tom 9 12 SP NYY
Ostrowski, Joe 9 10 RP NYY
Turley, Bob 9 12 SP NYY
Lemon, Jim 9 12 OF WAS
Marrero, Connie 9 10 SP WAS
Noren, Irv 9 12 OF/1B WAS
Porterfield, Bob 9 11 SP WAS
Sievers, Roy 9 13 1B/OF WAS
Adcock, Joe 9 13 1B
Antonelli, Johnny 9 12 SP
Ashburn, Richie 9 12 CF
Avila, Bobby 9 11 2B
Belardi, Wayne 9 11 1B
Bickford, Vern 9 10 SP
Brown, Hal 9 13 SP
Burdette, Lew 9 13 SP
Chambers, Cliff 9 10 RP
Church, Bubba 9 10 SP
Corwin, Al 9 10 RP
Courtney, Clint 9 12 C
Crandall, Del 9 13 C
Delsing, Jim 9 12 OF
Easter, Luke 9 10 OF/1b
Erskine, Carl 9 11 SP
Fondy, Dee 9 11 1B
Friend, Bob 9 13 SP
Garcia, Mike 9 12 SP
Garver, Ned 9 12 SP
Glynn, Bill 9 10 1B
Goliat, Mike 9 10 2B
Hartsfield, Roy 9 10 2B
Hemus, Solly 9 11 SS
Herbert, Ray 9 13 SP
Hooper, Bob 9 10 RP
Irvin, Monte 9 11 OF/1B
Jackson, Randy 9 11 3B
Jeffcoat, Hal 9 11 OF
Jethroe, Sam 9 10 OF
Johnson, Ernie 9 11 RP
Jones, Sam 9 13 SP
Kellner, Alex 9 11 SP
Kryhoski, Dick 9 10 1B
Labine, Clem 9 12 RP
Law, Vern 9 13 SP
Loes, Billy 9 12 SP
Logan, Johnny 9 12 SS
Long, Dale 9 12 1B
Lopata, Stan 9 12 C
McCall, Windy 9 11 SP/RP
Miller, Bob J. 9 11 SP
Miranda, Willy 9 11 SS
Morgan, Bobby 9 11 IF
Mueller, Don 9 11 OF
Naragon, Hal 9 12 C
Nelson, Rocky 9 12 1B
Newcombe, Don 9 12 SP
Roberts, Robin 9 13 SP
Rush, Bob 9 12 SP
Sawatski, Carl 9 12 C
Shuba, George 9 10 OF
Simpson, Harry 9 11 OF/1B
Smalley Sr., Roy 9 11 SS
Strickland, George 9 12 SS
Thomas, Frank J. 9 13 3B/UT
Thompson, Don 9 10 OF
Wade, Ben 9 10 RP
Walker, Rube 9 11 C
Williams, Dick 9 13 OF
Young, Bobby 9 11 2B
Zernial, Gus 9 11 LF
Zuverink, George 9 11 RP
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Re: ANDY's BOS ALTERNATE HISTORY 1.0

PostThu Jul 06, 2023 9:25 pm

Are we paused?
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Re: ANDY's BOS ALTERNATE HISTORY 1.0

PostThu Jul 06, 2023 9:48 pm

Andy needs to pick his keeper?
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Re: ANDY's BOS ALTERNATE HISTORY 1.0

PostThu Jul 06, 2023 9:52 pm

max_fischer wrote:Are we paused?


Waiting for tonight's games for a draft order
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Re: ANDY's BOS ALTERNATE HISTORY 1.0

PostFri Jul 07, 2023 12:07 am

ANDYS BOS ALT1.0 Season #9 Draft
ROUND 1
1. CLEVELAND INDIANS (bkrotee) -
2. PHILADELPHIA A's (Ballpark Frank) -
3. DETROIT TIGERS (Hamilton17) -
4. NEW YORK YANKEES (watsonjamey) -
5. BOSTON RED SOX (owenatkinson17) -
6. NEW YORK GIANTS (Hittmens) -
7. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (PETERLE) -
8. (WAS, BKN, STL, CWS)
9.
10.
11.

ROUND 2
1. CLEVELAND INDIANS (bkrotee) -
2. PHILADELPHIA A's (Ballpark Frank) -
3. DETROIT TIGERS (Hamilton17) -
4. NEW YORK YANKEES (watsonjamey) -
5. BOSTON RED SOX (owenatkinson17) -
6. NEW YORK GIANTS (Hittmens) -
7. CINCINNATI REDS (Ejohn77) -
8. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (PETERLE) -
9. (WAS, BKN, STL, CWS)
10.
11.
12.

ROUND 3
1. CLEVELAND INDIANS (bkrotee) -
2. PHILADELPHIA A's (Ballpark Frank) -
3. DETROIT TIGERS (Hamilton17) -
4. NEW YORK YANKEES (watsonjamey) -
5. BOSTON RED SOX (owenatkinson17) -
6. NEW YORK GIANTS (Hittmens) -
7. CINCINNATI REDS (Ejohn77) -
8. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (PETERLE) -
9. (WAS, BKN, STL, CWS)
10.
11.
12.

ROUND 4
1. CLEVELAND INDIANS (bkrotee) -
2. PHILADELPHIA A's (Ballpark Frank) -
3. DETROIT TIGERS (Hamilton17) -
4. NEW YORK YANKEES (watsonjamey) -
5. BOSTON RED SOX (owenatkinson17) -
6. NEW YORK GIANTS (Hittmens) -
7. CINCINNATI REDS (Ejohn77) -
8. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (PETERLE) -
9. (WAS, BKN, STL, CWS)
10.
11.
12.

ROUND 5
1. CLEVELAND INDIANS (bkrotee) -
2. PHILADELPHIA A's (Ballpark Frank) -
3. DETROIT TIGERS (Hamilton17) -
4. NEW YORK YANKEES (watsonjamey) -
5. BOSTON RED SOX (owenatkinson17) -
6. NEW YORK GIANTS (Hittmens) -
7. CINCINNATI REDS (Ejohn77) -
8. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (PETERLE) -
9. (WAS, BKN, STL, CWS)
10.
11.
12.

ROUND 6
1. CLEVELAND INDIANS (bkrotee) -
2. PHILADELPHIA A's (Ballpark Frank) -
3. DETROIT TIGERS (Hamilton17) -
4. NEW YORK YANKEES (watsonjamey) -
5. BOSTON RED SOX (owenatkinson17) -
6. NEW YORK GIANTS (Hittmens) -
7. CINCINNATI REDS (Ejohn77) -
8. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (PETERLE) -
9. (WAS, BKN, STL, CWS)
10.
11.
12.
BOSTON RED SOX (owenatkinson17) - 0 GA - Jackie Jensen OF
BROOKLYN DODGERS (sebtay41) - 0 GA - Roy Campanella C
CHICAGO WHITE SOX (max_fischer) - 0 GA - Minnie Minoso LF
CINCINNATI REDS (Ejohn77) - 0 GA - Wally Post and Gus Bell
CLEVELAND INDIANS (bkrotee) - 0 GA - Satchel Paige SP
DETROIT TIGERS (Hamilton19) - 0 GA - Charlie Maxwell OF
NEW YORK GIANTS (Hittmens) - 1 GA - Willie Mays CF
NEW YORK YANKEES (watsonjamey) - 0 GA - Mickey Mantle CF
PHILADELPHIA ATHLETICS (ballpark Frank) - 0 GA - Bobby Shantz SP
ST LOUIS BROWNS (PETERLE) - 1 GA - Cal Abrams OF
ST LOUIS CARDINALS (barterer2002) - 0 GA - Paul LaPalme RP
WASHINGTON SENATORS (andycummings) - 0 GA - Roy Sievers 1b


Adcock, Joe 9 13 1B
Antonelli, Johnny 9 12 SP
Ashburn, Richie 9 12 CF
Avila, Bobby 9 11 2B
Bauer, Hank 9 12 OF
Belardi, Wayne 9 11 1B
Bickford, Vern 9 10 SP
Boone, Ray 9 12 3B
Brideweser, Jim 9 11 UT
Bridges, Rocky 9 12 IF
Brown, Hal 9 13 SP
Burdette, Lew 9 13 SP
Burgess, Smoky 9 13 C
Busby, Jim 9 12 OF
Byrd, Harry 9 11 SP
Carrasquel, Chico 9 11 SS
Cerv, Bob 9 12 OF
Chambers, Cliff 9 10 RP
Church, Bubba 9 10 SP
Coleman, Jerry 9 11 2B
Collins, Joe 9 11 1B
Collum, Jackie 9 12 SP
Consuegra, Sandy 9 11 RP
Corwin, Al 9 10 RP
Courtney, Clint 9 12 C
Crandall, Del 9 13 C
Delsing, Jim 9 12 OF
Demaestri, Joe 9 12 IF
Donovan, Dick 9 13 SP
Dropo, Walt 9 12 1B
Easter, Luke 9 10 OF/1b
Erskine, Carl 9 11 SP
Fondy, Dee 9 15 CF
Fondy, Dee 9 11 1B
Ford, Whitey 9 13 SP
Friend, Bob 9 13 SP
Garcia, Mike 9 12 SP
Garver, Ned 9 12 SP
Ginsberg, Joe 9 12 C
Glynn, Bill 9 10 1B
Goliat, Mike 9 10 2B
Harshman, Jack 9 12 SP
Hartsfield, Roy 9 10 2B
Hatfield, Fred 9 11 IF
Hemus, Solly 9 11 SS
Herbert, Ray 9 13 SP
Hooper, Bob 9 10 RP
Irvin, Monte 9 11 OF/1B
Jackson, Randy 9 11 3B
Jeffcoat, Hal 9 11 OF
Jethroe, Sam 9 10 OF
Johnson, Ernie 9 11 RP
Jones, Sam 9 13 SP
Kellner, Alex 9 11 SP
Klippstein, Johnny 9 13 RP
Kryhoski, Dick 9 10 1B
Labine, Clem 9 12 RP
Landrith, Hobie 9 12 C
Law, Vern 9 13 SP
Lemon, Jim 9 12 OF
Loes, Billy 9 12 SP
Logan, Johnny 9 12 SS
Long, Dale 9 12 1B
Lopata, Stan 9 12 C
Lown, Turk 9 12 RP
Mapes, Cliff 9 10 OF
Marrero, Connie 9 10 SP
Martin, Billy 9 12 2B/3B
Martin, Morrie 9 11 RP
McCall, Windy 9 11 SP/RP
McDermott, Mickey 9 12 SP
McDougald, Gil 9 12 2B/SS/3B
McMillan, Roy 9 13 SS
Miller, Bob J. 9 11 SP
Miranda, Willy 9 11 SS
Morgan, Bobby 9 11 IF
Morgan, Tom 9 12 SP
Mueller, Don 9 11 OF
Naragon, Hal 9 12 C
Nelson, Rocky 9 12 1B
Newcombe, Don 9 12 SP
Nieman, Bob 9 12 OF
Noren, Irv 9 12 OF/1B
Ostrowski, Joe 9 10 RP
Piersall, Jim 9 13 CF/RF
Podbielan, Bud 9 11 RP
Porterfield, Bob 9 11 SP
Ridzik, Steve 9 13 RP
Roberts, Robin 9 13 SP
Runnels, Pete 9 13 2b/1b
Rush, Bob 9 12 SP
Sawatski, Carl 9 12 C
Shuba, George 9 10 OF
Simpson, Harry 9 11 OF/1B
Smalley Sr., Roy 9 11 SS
Smith, Frank T. 9 11 RP
Strickland, George 9 12 SS
Thomas, Frank J. 9 13 3B/UT
Thompson, Don 9 10 OF
Turley, Bob 9 12 SP
Wade, Ben 9 10 RP
Walker, Rube 9 11 C
White, Sammy 9 12 C
Williams, Dick 9 13 OF
Young, Bobby 9 11 2B
Zernial, Gus 9 11 LF
Zuverink, George 9 11 RP
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Re: ANDY's BOS ALTERNATE HISTORY 1.0

PostFri Jul 07, 2023 12:11 am

Will consider offers for #1 pick til noon .. thanks
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Re: ANDY's BOS ALTERNATE HISTORY 1.0

PostFri Jul 07, 2023 10:01 am

andycummings65 wrote:ANDYS BOS ALT1.0 Season #9 Draft
ROUND 1
1. CLEVELAND INDIANS (bkrotee) - Joe Adcock 1B
2. PHILADELPHIA A's (Ballpark Frank) -
3. DETROIT TIGERS (Hamilton17) -
4. NEW YORK YANKEES (watsonjamey) -
5. BOSTON RED SOX (owenatkinson17) -
6. NEW YORK GIANTS (Hittmens) -
7. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (PETERLE) -
8. (WAS, BKN, STL, CWS)
9.
10.
11.

ROUND 2
1. CLEVELAND INDIANS (bkrotee) -
2. PHILADELPHIA A's (Ballpark Frank) -
3. DETROIT TIGERS (Hamilton17) -
4. NEW YORK YANKEES (watsonjamey) -
5. BOSTON RED SOX (owenatkinson17) -
6. NEW YORK GIANTS (Hittmens) -
7. CINCINNATI REDS (Ejohn77) -
8. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (PETERLE) -
9. (WAS, BKN, STL, CWS)
10.
11.
12.

ROUND 3
1. CLEVELAND INDIANS (bkrotee) -
2. PHILADELPHIA A's (Ballpark Frank) -
3. DETROIT TIGERS (Hamilton17) -
4. NEW YORK YANKEES (watsonjamey) -
5. BOSTON RED SOX (owenatkinson17) -
6. NEW YORK GIANTS (Hittmens) -
7. CINCINNATI REDS (Ejohn77) -
8. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (PETERLE) -
9. (WAS, BKN, STL, CWS)
10.
11.
12.

ROUND 4
1. CLEVELAND INDIANS (bkrotee) -
2. PHILADELPHIA A's (Ballpark Frank) -
3. DETROIT TIGERS (Hamilton17) -
4. NEW YORK YANKEES (watsonjamey) -
5. BOSTON RED SOX (owenatkinson17) -
6. NEW YORK GIANTS (Hittmens) -
7. CINCINNATI REDS (Ejohn77) -
8. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (PETERLE) -
9. (WAS, BKN, STL, CWS)
10.
11.
12.

ROUND 5
1. CLEVELAND INDIANS (bkrotee) -
2. PHILADELPHIA A's (Ballpark Frank) -
3. DETROIT TIGERS (Hamilton17) -
4. NEW YORK YANKEES (watsonjamey) -
5. BOSTON RED SOX (owenatkinson17) -
6. NEW YORK GIANTS (Hittmens) -
7. CINCINNATI REDS (Ejohn77) -
8. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (PETERLE) -
9. (WAS, BKN, STL, CWS)
10.
11.
12.

ROUND 6
1. CLEVELAND INDIANS (bkrotee) -
2. PHILADELPHIA A's (Ballpark Frank) -
3. DETROIT TIGERS (Hamilton17) -
4. NEW YORK YANKEES (watsonjamey) -
5. BOSTON RED SOX (owenatkinson17) -
6. NEW YORK GIANTS (Hittmens) -
7. CINCINNATI REDS (Ejohn77) -
8. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (PETERLE) -
9. (WAS, BKN, STL, CWS)
10.
11.
12.
BOSTON RED SOX (owenatkinson17) - 0 GA - Jackie Jensen OF
BROOKLYN DODGERS (sebtay41) - 0 GA - Roy Campanella C
CHICAGO WHITE SOX (max_fischer) - 0 GA - Minnie Minoso LF
CINCINNATI REDS (Ejohn77) - 0 GA - Wally Post and Gus Bell
CLEVELAND INDIANS (bkrotee) - 0 GA - Satchel Paige SP, Joe Adcock 1B
DETROIT TIGERS (Hamilton19) - 0 GA - Charlie Maxwell OF
NEW YORK GIANTS (Hittmens) - 1 GA - Willie Mays CF
NEW YORK YANKEES (watsonjamey) - 0 GA - Mickey Mantle CF
PHILADELPHIA ATHLETICS (ballpark Frank) - 0 GA - Bobby Shantz SP
ST LOUIS BROWNS (PETERLE) - 1 GA - Cal Abrams OF
ST LOUIS CARDINALS (barterer2002) - 0 GA - Paul LaPalme RP
WASHINGTON SENATORS (andycummings) - 0 GA - Roy Sievers 1b



Antonelli, Johnny 9 12 SP
Ashburn, Richie 9 12 CF
Avila, Bobby 9 11 2B
Bauer, Hank 9 12 OF
Belardi, Wayne 9 11 1B
Bickford, Vern 9 10 SP
Boone, Ray 9 12 3B
Brideweser, Jim 9 11 UT
Bridges, Rocky 9 12 IF
Brown, Hal 9 13 SP
Burdette, Lew 9 13 SP
Burgess, Smoky 9 13 C
Busby, Jim 9 12 OF
Byrd, Harry 9 11 SP
Carrasquel, Chico 9 11 SS
Cerv, Bob 9 12 OF
Chambers, Cliff 9 10 RP
Church, Bubba 9 10 SP
Coleman, Jerry 9 11 2B
Collins, Joe 9 11 1B
Collum, Jackie 9 12 SP
Consuegra, Sandy 9 11 RP
Corwin, Al 9 10 RP
Courtney, Clint 9 12 C
Crandall, Del 9 13 C
Delsing, Jim 9 12 OF
Demaestri, Joe 9 12 IF
Donovan, Dick 9 13 SP
Dropo, Walt 9 12 1B
Easter, Luke 9 10 OF/1b
Erskine, Carl 9 11 SP
Fondy, Dee 9 15 CF
Fondy, Dee 9 11 1B
Ford, Whitey 9 13 SP
Friend, Bob 9 13 SP
Garcia, Mike 9 12 SP
Garver, Ned 9 12 SP
Ginsberg, Joe 9 12 C
Glynn, Bill 9 10 1B
Goliat, Mike 9 10 2B
Harshman, Jack 9 12 SP
Hartsfield, Roy 9 10 2B
Hatfield, Fred 9 11 IF
Hemus, Solly 9 11 SS
Herbert, Ray 9 13 SP
Hooper, Bob 9 10 RP
Irvin, Monte 9 11 OF/1B
Jackson, Randy 9 11 3B
Jeffcoat, Hal 9 11 OF
Jethroe, Sam 9 10 OF
Johnson, Ernie 9 11 RP
Jones, Sam 9 13 SP
Kellner, Alex 9 11 SP
Klippstein, Johnny 9 13 RP
Kryhoski, Dick 9 10 1B
Labine, Clem 9 12 RP
Landrith, Hobie 9 12 C
Law, Vern 9 13 SP
Lemon, Jim 9 12 OF
Loes, Billy 9 12 SP
Logan, Johnny 9 12 SS
Long, Dale 9 12 1B
Lopata, Stan 9 12 C
Lown, Turk 9 12 RP
Mapes, Cliff 9 10 OF
Marrero, Connie 9 10 SP
Martin, Billy 9 12 2B/3B
Martin, Morrie 9 11 RP
McCall, Windy 9 11 SP/RP
McDermott, Mickey 9 12 SP
McDougald, Gil 9 12 2B/SS/3B
McMillan, Roy 9 13 SS
Miller, Bob J. 9 11 SP
Miranda, Willy 9 11 SS
Morgan, Bobby 9 11 IF
Morgan, Tom 9 12 SP
Mueller, Don 9 11 OF
Naragon, Hal 9 12 C
Nelson, Rocky 9 12 1B
Newcombe, Don 9 12 SP
Nieman, Bob 9 12 OF
Noren, Irv 9 12 OF/1B
Ostrowski, Joe 9 10 RP
Piersall, Jim 9 13 CF/RF
Podbielan, Bud 9 11 RP
Porterfield, Bob 9 11 SP
Ridzik, Steve 9 13 RP
Roberts, Robin 9 13 SP
Runnels, Pete 9 13 2b/1b
Rush, Bob 9 12 SP
Sawatski, Carl 9 12 C
Shuba, George 9 10 OF
Simpson, Harry 9 11 OF/1B
Smalley Sr., Roy 9 11 SS
Smith, Frank T. 9 11 RP
Strickland, George 9 12 SS
Thomas, Frank J. 9 13 3B/UT
Thompson, Don 9 10 OF
Turley, Bob 9 12 SP
Wade, Ben 9 10 RP
Walker, Rube 9 11 C
White, Sammy 9 12 C
Williams, Dick 9 13 OF
Young, Bobby 9 11 2B
Zernial, Gus 9 11 LF
Zuverink, George 9 11 RP
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Re: ANDY's BOS ALTERNATE HISTORY 1.0

PostFri Jul 07, 2023 10:03 am

any interest in Cavaretta (10), Dixie Walker (9), Beazley (9) ?
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Re: ANDY's BOS ALTERNATE HISTORY 1.0

PostFri Jul 07, 2023 10:50 am

A's have ownership meeting in Ocean City, NJ .. en route .. may be a few hours .. time to cut the grass

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Re: ANDY's BOS ALTERNATE HISTORY 1.0

PostFri Jul 07, 2023 2:21 pm

Sorry all. I’m now in OC but we are going out with family until late tonight for a family reunion.. I have 2 offers for my pick. I need to review them. If anyone else wishes to trade for my pick please email or text me. I have lots of salary cap space since I lost Foxx, Simmons and Greenberg after season 8. Tomorrow I will have more time to review various trade options. I apologize for holding the draft up .
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