New Card Drop

As somebody who played 67 seasons of ATG II & III and now returned after 17 years, I agree 99% with Backfire ( I do recall your team name from years ago....so, Hello Again!). The draft was way more important then, than now. So far I have gotten at least 23 of my draft selections in ATG9. Back in the day, not getting Ozzie with the first pick was a problem (for me, at least). Now, his price is too inflated and there are so many better choices. ATG9 is definitely more balanced, as Backfire pointed out.

In terms of the platoon players, I agree completely. But I think it is solely a pricing issue. M Duncan appears to be the most coveted player now at $1.15, but if he were 'properly' priced (I don't know, say $2.50), facing him each season vs LHP would not be nearly as big of an issue. This game is all about getting the most value for your $80M. SOM has done a very good job leveling out the pricing, but they still have a ways to go. Again, Duncan is clearly under-priced and Mussina ($7.22) is clearly over-priced. So it works both ways. Then again, if there were not these 'mistakes' by SOM, it would not be so much fun trying to find the values. Just my two cents.

Backfire. I've played in a couple of leagues where no 1 to either 2,2.5 or 3mil hitters cards are ineligible. eliminates the inexpensive platoons. doesn't necessarily eliminate platoons but the additional costs takes its toll. set one up, I'll play? once the New Cards dro[

said that backwards Backfire. the 1-3 mil cards r not allowed. or any interval u wish to set.

As somebody who played 67 seasons of ATG II & III and now returned after 17 years, I agree 99% with Backfire ( I do recall your team name from years ago....so, Hello Again!). The draft was way more important then, than now. So far I have gotten at least 23 of my draft selections in ATG9. Back in the day, not getting Ozzie with the first pick was a problem (for me, at least). Now, his price is too inflated and there are so many better choices. ATG9 is definitely more balanced, as Backfire pointed out.

In terms of the platoon players, I agree completely. But I think it is solely a pricing issue. M Duncan appears to be the most coveted player now at $1.15, but if he were 'properly' priced (I don't know, say $2.50), facing him each season vs LHP would not be nearly as big of an issue. This game is all about getting the most value for your $80M. SOM has done a very good job leveling out the pricing, but they still have a ways to go. Again, Duncan is clearly under-priced and Mussina ($7.22) is clearly over-priced. So it works both ways. Then again, if there were not these 'mistakes' by SOM, it would not be so much fun trying to find the values. Just my two cents.

Hello there! I remember you too. It's really been a while, huh! Interesting to see someone agree with all my points for a change, I often feel like the odd man out around here haha. One of the only complaints I have with the game is that we get more and more card drops but they don't circle back and update some of the prices that didn't pan out. Duncan is the prime example of a problematic card. I know for a fact managers 1st pick him regularly as I have been burned on him with my 2nd and 3rd picks. When the top dog in the yard is one usable in about 30% of the (or whatever it is these days) it does indicate a pricing error. I don't see why they don't just bump the price up a bit, same for guys like Tekulve, Shano Collins, etc. The lefty platoon guys are often way too cheap.

Backfire. I've played in a couple of leagues where no 1 to either 2,2.5 or 3mil hitters cards are ineligible. eliminates the inexpensive platoons. doesn't necessarily eliminate platoons but the additional costs takes its toll. set one up, I'll play? once the New Cards dro[

You never know, I might try that sometime. I haven't won a ring in a while so I'm on my last credit with four teams active. Trying to hold for the next sale if I can haha. I have my draft list ready for the next season as I always have four teams active.

I still remember the days when the draft determined the league winner, based on who got Frankie Frisch.

I'm kidding but I'm also kind of not. Truthfully, I like the strategy that goes into having a little scarcity but sometimes I like the challenge of having to build a winning team when EVERYONE has almost unlimited options to do the same. Frankly I think these huge player pools actually make the game more challenging because you have to work a lot harder to find a winning angle. Not coincidentally, my winning percentage in the early versions (I think I started with ATG 4?) was higher than it is now...

I do agree that Duncan is too cheap. OTOH, how much are you going to make a guy who's only going to play vs lefties, is horrible defensively, and 2 injury numbers to boot?

Hey Backfire, glad to hear you remember me from 2005-2006. Again, I agree with you completely. SOM’s time would be much better spent revising salaries, rather than adding 300 new players. Of those, probably 200-250, or more, will be incorrectly priced and never used.

Steve F. - I don’t know what the exact salary should be for Duncan. I do know that I put him as my top pick on three draft lists and only got him once. Clearly, many others realize his value despite his average defense and injury rating. My pulled-out-of-the-air-estimate of $2.50 may not be too far off.

Griping aside, I am glad to be playing 365 again and look forward to many more teams!

I do agree that Duncan is too cheap. OTOH, how much are you going to make a guy who's only going to play vs lefties, is horrible defensively, and 2 injury numbers to boot?

I don't know how the cards are priced but I do think a big part of the problem with lefty platoons is that the injuries don't matter as much as they often wouldn't be playing anyway. Sometimes Duncan is injured for 5 games but wouldn't have actually played so it essentially has no effect. As for his defense, it seems to be less relevant than I would have thought, same for many platoon cards. The offense is just quite strong. I think he should cost 2M+, personally. But that's just off the top of my head. I think the best methodology for pricing would be to examine the win rates of the most played cards and increase the costs accordingly, then do cost reductions for poor win rate cards, especially in the 4-9M range since they can have a severe effect. Having some deals is a good things but I think there has to be limits.

Crabby: Same here, happy to be back playing! Just wish these card drops didn't exacerbate the platoon issue as it personally does detract from my fun a bit. That said, it is fun to explore more cards, for sure.

You can customize the ATG set any way you like. If you want scarcity, play a 1000 card random ATG set. It's a challenge.

I would play a lot fewer teams if it came down to having a good draft or not all the time. It's a much better game in my view, having plenty of cards for any strategy you may be using.

Re cheap platoon players, I have seen good managers with Duncan, Mercer and Blowers all on the roster do quite poorly. Lefty mashers can only have so much impact, playing about a third of the time. 2m seems reasonable for Duncan, but we are only talking about a .85 difference, which isn't a real big deal.

I don’t mind the platoons as much as others do. To me it’s about the adjustments post draft. If a team in my division is platoon heavy and they have Blowers , Galaraga , Mercer , Duncan etc I’m replacing my lefty starter with a righty starter and I’m neutralizing the threat all together. Just like if I’m in a division with mostly lefty starters I’m countering with the lefty bashers