POLL ... Is there a 100 Win curse?

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Is there a 100 Win (give or take) curse in the game?

Absolutely, it's bitten me in the ass many times!
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That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard!
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Mattw0909

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Re: POLL ... Is there a 100 Win curse?

PostThu Oct 19, 2023 9:53 pm

I’m more “annoyed” with the sudden falloff with the team playing at the .650 winning percentage then in the second half they can’t win a game more than the 100 game winners not winning the championship. I have 5 100 game winners 1 championship. Sounds like that’s about the rate of them winning. I can at least reason why some of those teams didn’t go all the way. Sometimes you run into another really good team in the playoffs, an injury at a bad time, or sometimes it’s just a bad matchup. The regression or the normalization definitely annoys me but it doesn’t bother me to the point of giving up on the game.
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Re: POLL ... Is there a 100 Win curse?

PostFri Oct 20, 2023 2:37 pm

I've had 37 teams that won 100 wins or more--a reasonably large sample. Before I looked at the actual results, my impulse would have been to feel that I'd been bitten by the 100 Win curse, but when I look at the actual results, I have to feel that while I haven't been especially lucky, my results are--in Star Trek speak--within normal parameters.

Wins aside, one would expect a set of 37 average playoff teams to lose in the Semis 18.5 times. That means they'd make the Finals 18.5 times. They'd lose in the finals 9.25 times. And they'd be Champs 9.25 times.

Overall, my 100+ win teams have lost in the Semis 17 times. They've made the Finals 20 times. They've won the Finals 8 times. So my 100 win teams haven't done really well in the finals, winning only 8 out of 20. But they've made the finals a shade more than expected. Overall my 8 championships are not that much below the 9.25 championships expected of a team, apart from wins. I've done pretty well making the finals, not so well actually winning the finals.

Still, I would say that while winning 100 games doesn't appear to have HELPED my teams, it hasn't dramatically hurt them, either. To me, it seems that my overall record with 100 win teams is well within the range of random chance.
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Re: POLL ... Is there a 100 Win curse?

PostFri Oct 20, 2023 9:37 pm

227 teams. Lost semi 7 times. Lost finals 4 times. Won title 3 times. So 3 title in 14 chances with 100 Plus win teams. My opponents win totals. 80,82,82,83,83,84,87,88,89,91,91,93,97,97. 3 teams I beat were 82. 91. 97 . Thoughts? One league I had 110 wins lost in semi to 83 win and was 8 and 4 in season against but in same league gorads lost semis with 103 win team against another 83 win team that he was 9 and 3 against . Our run diff me +268 gorads +159 other teams + 18 + 11
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Re: POLL ... Is there a 100 Win curse?

PostFri Oct 20, 2023 10:06 pm

Happens in real life baseball all the time. Plus, we're all fixated on 100 wins as the magical mystery tour, what makes that much more different than 99, 98, or 97 wins?? It's like the artificial 100 pitches limit for a starting pitcher, just a point in an imaginary threshold.
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Re: POLL ... Is there a 100 Win curse?

PostFri Oct 20, 2023 10:12 pm

Those wins you mentioned for me even worse. Wins 97 .98.99. Made playoffs 15 times 11 semi loss 2 final loss. 2champs. MLB 68 of the 116 100-win teams have advanced to the World Series (.596), with 38 of them going on to win the Series (for a percentage of .559), while 23 teams that have won 100 games have lost in the first round of the postseason champs. Per wikepedia
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Re: POLL ... Is there a 100 Win curse?

PostSun Oct 22, 2023 12:20 am

The problem may be that players are viewing 100 wins as a mark of quality. The assumption is that if a team wins 100 games it must be a good team. However, 100 wins may be more a sign of a lucky team. It may mean the team lucked into a weak division, which is what allowed the team to rack up a 100 wins. A better team may have been in a tougher division where they had a battle just to make the playoffs.

There are probably better indicators of team quality than wins. Perhaps analyzing the NERP of the respective teams.
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Re: POLL ... Is there a 100 Win curse?

PostSun Oct 22, 2023 6:24 pm

I think that probably I actually stand out as having the worst luck. So I have had 14 of my 268 teams that have won 100 games.... 7 lost in the semi finals, 5 in the finals and a whopping 2 championships. That is basically fucking BS. Don't really know what to hang my hat on regarding an explanation but then again I am a Buffalo Bills fan. I really did not even notice it that much, I mean I suspected something was fishy but not that crazy bad kinda luck.
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Re: POLL ... Is there a 100 Win curse?

PostSun Oct 22, 2023 8:25 pm

chuckwonup wrote:I think that probably I actually stand out as having the worst luck. So I have had 14 of my 268 teams that have won 100 games.... 7 lost in the semi finals, 5 in the finals and a whopping 2 championships. That is basically fucking BS. Don't really know what to hang my hat on regarding an explanation but then again I am a Buffalo Bills fan. I really did not even notice it that much, I mean I suspected something was fishy but not that crazy bad kinda luck.


There's an upside, Scott Norwood can't hit into a triple play in the bottom of the 9th of game 7 when you're down by 1 run.
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Re: POLL ... Is there a 100 Win curse?

PostSun Oct 22, 2023 9:43 pm

Yea guess your right but poor Scott Norwood.
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Re: POLL ... Is there a 100 Win curse?

PostSun Oct 22, 2023 10:55 pm

I hear you Chuck it didn't happen so bad in previous versions. Makes you wonder.
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