ANDYS ALTERNATE HISTORY 14.0

ANDYS ALTERNATE HISTORY 14.0 Season #11 Draft

Round 1
1.

FRANCHISE SELECTIONS
MILWAUKEE BRAVES (caimrisek) - 2 GA -
BOSTON RED SOX (emart) - 2 GA -
BROOKLYN DODGERS (drfreeze49) - 2 GA -(GA) Don Drysdale P and Maury Wills SS
CINCINNATI REDS (cf17) - 2 GA -
CLEVELAND INDIANS (carr20) - 2 GA -
NEW YORK GIANTS (ironwill1) - 2 GA -
NEW YORK YANKEES (CTStough) - 2 GA - Roger Maris OF
PHILADELPHIA A's (barterer2002) - 2 GA -
PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES (rookssa) - 2 GA - Chris Short SP
PITTSBURGH PIRATES (dharmabums) - 2 GA - Bill Mazeroski 2B
ST. LOUIS CARDINALS (andy) - 2 GA - Bob Gibson SP
WASHINGTON SENATORS (Hamilton17) - 2 GA - Jim Perry SP


Miller, Bob L. 11 15 RP BKN STL
Neal, Charlie 11 12 2B BKN
Osteen, Claude 11 15 SP BKN
Reed, Howie 11 14 RP BKN
Roseboro, Johnny 11 14 C BKN
Davis, Tommy 11 16 3B/OF BKN
Fairly, Ron 11 16 OF/1B BKN
Adair, Jerry 11 14 IF BOS
Bell, Gary 11 14 RP/SP BOS CLE
Geiger, Gary 11 14 OF BOS
Green, Pumpsie 11 12 UT BOS
Mantilla, Felix 11 13 3B/UT BOS MIL
Monbouquette, Bill 11 14 SP BOS
Covington, Wes 11 13 OF MIL
Johnson, Ken 11 14 SP MIL
Maye, Lee 11 14 OF MIL
McMahon, Don 11 15 RP MIL
Phillips, Taylor 11 12 RP MIL
Pizarro, Juan 11 15 SP MIL
Torre, Frank 11 12 1B MIL
Trowbridge, Bob 11 12 SP MIL
Kasko, Eddie 11 13 SS CIN
O'Toole, Jim 11 13 SP CIN
Pinson, Vada 11 15 CF CIN
Robinson, Frank 11 16 OF/1B/3B CIN
Francona, Tito 11 14 OF/1B CLE
Grant, Mudcat 11 14 SP CLE WAS
Kindall, Jerry 11 13 IF CLE WAS
Romano, Johnny 11 13 C CLE
Snyder, Russ 11 14 OF CLE
Wagner, Leon 11 14 OF CLE
Alou, Felipe 11 15 OF NYG MIL
Bressoud, Eddie 11 13 SS NYG
Cepeda, Orlando 11 15 1B/OF NYG STL
Davenport, Jim 11 14 3B NYG
Kirkland, Willie 11 13 OF NYG
McCormick, Mike 11 14 SP NYG
McCovey, Willie 11 17 1B/OF NYG
Pagan, Jose 11 15 SS NYG PIT
Sanford, Jack 11 13 SP NYG
Coates, Jim 11 13 SP NYY
Kubek, Tony 11 13 SS NYY
Terry, Ralph 11 13 SP NYY
Bowsfield, Ted 11 13 RP PHA
Lumpe, Jerry 11 13 2B PHA
Siebern, Norm 11 14 OF/1B PHA NYY
Amaro, Ruben 11 14 SS PHI
Callison, Johnny 11 15 OF PHI
Farrell, Turk 11 14 RP PHI
Fernandez, Chico 11 12 SS PHI
Herrera, Pancho 11 12 1B PHI
Taylor, Tony 11 16 2B PHI
Cheney, Tom 11 13 SP PIT
Christopher, Joe 11 13 OF PIT
Cimoli, Gino 11 13 OF PIT
Daniels, Bennie 11 13 SP PIT
Green, Fred 11 13 RP PIT
Stuart, Dick 11 14 1B PIT
Umbricht, Jim 11 12 SP PIT
Altman, George 11 13 OF STL
Broglio, Ernie 11 13 SP STL
Flood, Curt 11 14 CF STL
Gibson, Bob 11 15 SP STL
McCarver, Tim 11 17 C STL
White, Bill 11 14 1B STL
Allison, Bob 11 14 OF/1B WAS
Herzog, Whitey 11 12 OF/1B WAS
Kaat, Jim 11 17 SP WAS
Kralick, Jack 11 13 SP WAS
Pearson, Albie 11 13 OF WAS
Perry, Jim 11 15 SP WAS CLE
Versalles, Zoilo 11 14 SS WAS
Williams, Stan 11 15 RP WAS
Anderson, Bob 11 12 SP
Aparicio, Luis 11 15 SS
Arias, Rudy 11 11 RP
Aspromonte, Bob 11 14 3B
Averill, Earl D. 11 12 C
Brandt, Jackie 11 13 OF/1B
Brown, Dick 11 13 C
Buzhardt, John 11 14 SP
Cardwell, Don 11 14 SP
Carreon, Cam 11 13 C
Cash, Norm 11 15 1B
Cuellar, Mike 11 16 SP
Demeter, Don 11 13 OF/1B
Drabowsky, Moe 11 15 RP
Drott, Dick 11 12 SP
Ellsworth, Dick 11 14 SP
Fisher, Eddie 11 15 RP
Fisher, Jack 11 14 SP
Gentile, Jim 11 13 1B
Grba, Eli 11 12 SP
Hansen, Ron 11 15 SS
Hobbie, Glen 11 13 SP
Howard, Frank 11 15 OF/1B
Landis, Jim 11 13 CF
Latman, Barry 11 13 SP
Marshall, Jim 11 12 OF/1B
Martin, J.C. 11 15 C
McAnany, Jim 11 12 OF
Neeman, Cal 11 12 C
Pappas, Milt 11 15 SP
Pena, Orlando 11 15 RP
Peters, Gary 11 15 SP
Pilarcik, Al 11 12 OF
Raymond, Claude 11 14 RP
Shaw, Bob 11 13 SP
Sherry, Larry 11 14 RP
Stock, Wes 11 13 RP
Taylor, Sammy 11 12 C
Williams, Billy 11 16 OF
Wilson, Earl 11 14 SP

SP Billy Pierce is available for trade. He's a monster LH SP non-* good through season 13. I'm looking for a quality SP* to replace him. Let me know if you are interested. Thanks.

ANDYS ALTERNATE HISTORY 14.0 Season #11 Draft

Round 1
1.

FRANCHISE SELECTIONS
MILWAUKEE BRAVES (caimrisek) - 2 GA -
BOSTON RED SOX (emart) - 2 GA -
BROOKLYN DODGERS (drfreeze49) - 2 GA -(GA) Don Drysdale P and Maury Wills SS
CINCINNATI REDS (cf17) - 2 GA -
CLEVELAND INDIANS (carr20) - 2 GA - Johnny Romano C
NEW YORK GIANTS (ironwill1) - 2 GA -
NEW YORK YANKEES (CTStough) - 2 GA - Roger Maris OF
PHILADELPHIA A's (barterer2002) - 2 GA -
PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES (rookssa) - 2 GA - Chris Short SP
PITTSBURGH PIRATES (dharmabums) - 2 GA - Bill Mazeroski 2B
ST. LOUIS CARDINALS (andy) - 2 GA - Bob Gibson SP
WASHINGTON SENATORS (Hamilton17) - 2 GA - Jim Perry SP


Miller, Bob L. 11 15 RP BKN STL
Neal, Charlie 11 12 2B BKN
Osteen, Claude 11 15 SP BKN
Reed, Howie 11 14 RP BKN
Roseboro, Johnny 11 14 C BKN
Davis, Tommy 11 16 3B/OF BKN
Fairly, Ron 11 16 OF/1B BKN
Adair, Jerry 11 14 IF BOS
Bell, Gary 11 14 RP/SP BOS CLE
Geiger, Gary 11 14 OF BOS
Green, Pumpsie 11 12 UT BOS
Mantilla, Felix 11 13 3B/UT BOS MIL
Monbouquette, Bill 11 14 SP BOS
Covington, Wes 11 13 OF MIL
Johnson, Ken 11 14 SP MIL
Maye, Lee 11 14 OF MIL
McMahon, Don 11 15 RP MIL
Phillips, Taylor 11 12 RP MIL
Pizarro, Juan 11 15 SP MIL
Torre, Frank 11 12 1B MIL
Trowbridge, Bob 11 12 SP MIL
Kasko, Eddie 11 13 SS CIN
O'Toole, Jim 11 13 SP CIN
Pinson, Vada 11 15 CF CIN
Robinson, Frank 11 16 OF/1B/3B CIN
Francona, Tito 11 14 OF/1B CLE
Grant, Mudcat 11 14 SP CLE WAS
Kindall, Jerry 11 13 IF CLE WAS
Snyder, Russ 11 14 OF CLE
Wagner, Leon 11 14 OF CLE
Alou, Felipe 11 15 OF NYG MIL
Bressoud, Eddie 11 13 SS NYG
Cepeda, Orlando 11 15 1B/OF NYG STL
Davenport, Jim 11 14 3B NYG
Kirkland, Willie 11 13 OF NYG
McCormick, Mike 11 14 SP NYG
McCovey, Willie 11 17 1B/OF NYG
Pagan, Jose 11 15 SS NYG PIT
Sanford, Jack 11 13 SP NYG
Coates, Jim 11 13 SP NYY
Kubek, Tony 11 13 SS NYY
Terry, Ralph 11 13 SP NYY
Bowsfield, Ted 11 13 RP PHA
Lumpe, Jerry 11 13 2B PHA
Siebern, Norm 11 14 OF/1B PHA NYY
Amaro, Ruben 11 14 SS PHI
Callison, Johnny 11 15 OF PHI
Farrell, Turk 11 14 RP PHI
Fernandez, Chico 11 12 SS PHI
Herrera, Pancho 11 12 1B PHI
Taylor, Tony 11 16 2B PHI
Cheney, Tom 11 13 SP PIT
Christopher, Joe 11 13 OF PIT
Cimoli, Gino 11 13 OF PIT
Daniels, Bennie 11 13 SP PIT
Green, Fred 11 13 RP PIT
Stuart, Dick 11 14 1B PIT
Umbricht, Jim 11 12 SP PIT
Altman, George 11 13 OF STL
Broglio, Ernie 11 13 SP STL
Flood, Curt 11 14 CF STL
Gibson, Bob 11 15 SP STL
McCarver, Tim 11 17 C STL
White, Bill 11 14 1B STL
Allison, Bob 11 14 OF/1B WAS
Herzog, Whitey 11 12 OF/1B WAS
Kaat, Jim 11 17 SP WAS
Kralick, Jack 11 13 SP WAS
Pearson, Albie 11 13 OF WAS
Perry, Jim 11 15 SP WAS CLE
Versalles, Zoilo 11 14 SS WAS
Williams, Stan 11 15 RP WAS
Anderson, Bob 11 12 SP
Aparicio, Luis 11 15 SS
Arias, Rudy 11 11 RP
Aspromonte, Bob 11 14 3B
Averill, Earl D. 11 12 C
Brandt, Jackie 11 13 OF/1B
Brown, Dick 11 13 C
Buzhardt, John 11 14 SP
Cardwell, Don 11 14 SP
Carreon, Cam 11 13 C
Cash, Norm 11 15 1B
Cuellar, Mike 11 16 SP
Demeter, Don 11 13 OF/1B
Drabowsky, Moe 11 15 RP
Drott, Dick 11 12 SP
Ellsworth, Dick 11 14 SP
Fisher, Eddie 11 15 RP
Fisher, Jack 11 14 SP
Gentile, Jim 11 13 1B
Grba, Eli 11 12 SP
Hansen, Ron 11 15 SS
Hobbie, Glen 11 13 SP
Howard, Frank 11 15 OF/1B
Landis, Jim 11 13 CF
Latman, Barry 11 13 SP
Marshall, Jim 11 12 OF/1B
Martin, J.C. 11 15 C
McAnany, Jim 11 12 OF
Neeman, Cal 11 12 C
Pappas, Milt 11 15 SP
Pena, Orlando 11 15 RP
Peters, Gary 11 15 SP
Pilarcik, Al 11 12 OF
Raymond, Claude 11 14 RP
Shaw, Bob 11 13 SP
Sherry, Larry 11 14 RP
Stock, Wes 11 13 RP
Taylor, Sammy 11 12 C
Williams, Billy 11 16 OF
Wilson, Earl 11 14 SP

SP Gene Conley is available for trade. He's a monster RH SP non-* good through season 12. I'm looking for a quality SP* to replace him. Let me know if you are interested. Thanks.

Blatantly plagiarizing Joseph's earlier note.

Not be adversarial, but why would someone give up a quality four day starter (*SP) for a quality five day starter (SP)?

Not be adversarial, but why would someone give up a quality four day starter (*SP) for a quality five day starter (SP)?

It's a fair point.

I don't need as quality quality. ... Pierce is a 7m+ non*SP, so his per inning numbers are about the same as an 8.5m SP*. The pricing reflects the reduction in quantity.

I would be looking at an sp* for less money, so less quality and more quantity.

I love running a 5 man rotation. I find that the net salary for 5 guys who are non* is generally better for my teams than the 4 SP* plus a 5th dead spot in my rotation.

Interesting choice for a 4 man vs 5 man rotation. If you have a good 4 man rotation (and a cheap 5th starter placeholder), how much do you spend? Maybe:

$9
$8
$7
$6
$.5

$30.5mm

A comparable 5 man rotation might look like;

$7
$7
$6
$6
$5

$31mm

Am I nuts?

Interesting choice for a 4 man vs 5 man rotation. If you have a good 4 man rotation (and a cheap 5th starter placeholder), how much do you spend? Maybe:

$9
$8
$7
$6
$.5

$30.5mm

A comparable 5 man rotation might look like;

$7
$7
$6
$6
$5

$31mm

Am I nuts?

Yes, you are nuts. That's WAAAY too much math for a Friday.

Didn't Arlo Guthrie write a song about that?

"I don't want a nickel
I just want to run a five man rotation on my motorsickle?"

I love using a 5-man rotation over/against a 4-man. Part of that is the fact that there are more * SP options and more players go that route, so I'm more likely to get my favorite players with a 5-man. If I'm building a 100M ATG9 team, for example, I may allocate 45M for a pitching staff, and put 4 of that on a closer and another 5 on the other bullpen parts, leaving me about 34M for SP's. (Similar to your estimates, Jim.)

With 34M for SP's, we could do this:

SP1* - Dutch Leonard 12.21M, LH S8 E, 5 BB, 6.75 1B, .28 HR (11.16%, 11.2 total bases)
SP2* - Jacob DeGrom 10.83M, RH S7 4R, 4 BB, 3.75 1B, 1.39 2B vs. RH (8.56%, 9.95 total bases vs. RH)
SP3* - Bob Gibson 7.25M, RH S9* 2R, 3 BB, 10 1B, 1.5 2B, .5 3B, (13.89%, 16.2 total bases vs. RH)
SP4* - Jack Billingham 4.20M RH S8* E, 6 BB, 10.45 1B, 5.05 2B, .5 3B, 2 HR (22.23%, 33.38 total bases)
Filler - 0.50

Total - 34.99M

SP1 - Ferdie Schupp 9.65M, LH S8/R5 E, 7 BB, 4.4 1B (10.55%, 10.55 total bases)
SP2 - Pedro Martinez 8.95M, RH S7/R4 4R, 3.75 1B, 2.64 2B vs. RH (6.39%, 9.04 total bases vs. RH)
SP3 - Willard Schmidt 6.43M, RH S9/R3 3R, 10 BB, 1.62 1B, 1.94 2B, 0.6 3B (13.38%, 16.44 total bases vs. RH)
SP4 - Bobby Bolin 5.44M, RH S8 1L, 6 BB, 8 1B, 4.9 2B, .2 3B, 1 HR (18.63%, 26.34 total bases)
SP5 - Andy Cooper 4.02M, LH S8/R1 E, 6 BB, 11.25 1B, 6 2B, 1 3B (22.47%, 29.89 total bases)

Total - 34.49M (saving the price of the filler piece)

The 5-man vs. 4-man argument is a qualitative decision based on the number of starts. With a 4-man, you get 40 starts each from everyone with 41 for your 1-2. With the 5-man, it is 32 starts per (with 33 to 1/2). Dropping 8 starts each from Leonard, DeGrom, and Gibson and giving those to Bobby Bolin/Andy Cooper is a HUGE downgrade in those 24 games. However, taking all 40 of Billingham's starts away and distributing them between Bolin/Cooper is an upgrade (not as much of an upgrade as the downgrade). And then you have Schupp/Martinez/Schmidt being marginally better in all of their 32 starts than the 32 starts from the top 3 SP* guys ...

Fun times!

I generally prefer the 5-man. But that's the math. It's pretty darn close.