Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

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tmatthews

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Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostFri Mar 29, 2024 1:59 pm

My question is, how do we fix this? Grove and Gibson for example. Truly all-time great seasons deserve a card as dominate as their actual seasons. I am not advocating a mass change. Just an improvement for the 5-10 cards that don't play like the truly historic season they represent.
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Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostFri Mar 29, 2024 2:58 pm

Gibsons card is pretty accurate. Grove is a victim of era adjustment, in which the 1930s take quite a hit
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Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostFri Mar 29, 2024 3:11 pm

tmatthews wrote:My question is, how do we fix this? Grove and Gibson for example. Truly all-time great seasons deserve a card as dominate as their actual seasons. I am not advocating a mass change. Just an improvement for the 5-10 cards that don't play like the truly historic season they represent.


I do not believe there is anything "to fix". I could be wrong, but Strat-O recreates each season individually by using only the stats of that season. The Gibson 68 season is historical due to his 1.12 ERA, but the average ERA for MLB that year was 2.98. The average BA was 0.237. Compare that to Pedro's 2000. His ERA was 1.74 when the league average was 4.76 and the average BA was 0.270. In terms of an individual's season compared to the league, Pedro had the better year. That is reflected in their Strat-O cards. Pedro is arguably The Best starting pitcher and Gibson is just a top-50. The real problem with the Gibson 68 card is the $10.17 price is too high. If SOM priced it at $8.50, the card would get used all the time and the results would be justified at that price level.
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Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostSat Mar 30, 2024 10:59 am

Agreed , the 1968 season really illustrates what you say ; Gibson,Tiant, Mcdowell and Mclain all over priced for the accomplishments that were so extreme that baseball lowered the mound before the 1969 season.
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Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostMon Apr 01, 2024 12:19 pm

94 Paul O'neil Card , NG, doesn't perform well
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Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostThu Aug 01, 2024 2:51 pm

Not sure if I've even seen Killabrew used.
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Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostThu Aug 01, 2024 4:21 pm

seems everyone agrees on repricing. don't really care about frequency so much. In the Daily Game they change the cards daily. that seems like a lot more work than just a up or down percent formula?
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Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostThu Aug 01, 2024 6:38 pm

As a lifetime Cardinals fan who idolized Gibson as a child, I agree. I sometimes get better results when I use his 69 card.
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Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostFri Aug 09, 2024 7:19 pm

STEVENSTEFFANNI wrote:there are too many examples as far as cards that basically are bad when you look at their stats...if you want to stop or slow down the over use of cheap cards make them way more injury prone I keep preaching its BS that a guy with 200 PA has the same chance as injury as a guy who had 599 PA...put these guys at 4 and 5 of getting injured and guys will think twice about using them...one player I was looking at tonight whose card should be wayyy better than what it is is Hal Trosky 4.77mil card .330/.388/.598 is better than most above 8mil yet his card crappy against a lefty and against a righty hes a 1 column card..80 mil leagues most players over 8 mil arent used...as far as pitchers go its all about offense anyway so a 5mil pitcher can have a 5 ERA and the 8mil pitcher may end up with a 4 ERA and it doesnt change the outcome

Willie Kamm is a perfect example. Has 599 AB/walks and played in 152 of 154 games in 1925. I’m not even halfway through a season and he’s been injured 17 games. Looking on MLB.com he actually had 640 plate appearances (including sacrifice plays and any HBP). Dumb.
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Re: Open for discussion: Worst superstar card in Strat

PostSat Aug 10, 2024 9:04 am

this one has probably been hashed and rehashed so much you could sell it as part of a fast food breakfast set, but ive always been amazed why the injury numbers are so whack

Tatis Jr. played over 500 AP and in 130 games has a 3 injury rating....while other guys that had 100 or so at bats have a 1 rating.....

there could be a few general easy changes that seem hard to understand why they haven't been implemented

1) setting for "never remove for defensive replacement NO MATTER WHAT" (except injury of course)
2) setting for "never steal 3rd or home under any circumstances"
3) setting for "never move from original defensive position under any circumstances" (to avoid the late inning HAL "musical chairs"

i'm sure there's a much longer running list with other things, and probably all of those above too
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