Barts Alternative History. 1.0

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Re: Barts Alternative History. 1.0

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Re: Barts Alternative History. 1.0

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Round 13

145. Birmingham Barons Andy - Allen Sothoron SP
146. Port Au Prince Cracked Conches Peter - Tommy Leach 3b
147. Southeastern Todd- Bill James SP
148. Gogogogo Cassavas Roland Jack Graney OF
149. Republic of Texas Main line- Wally Gerber SS
150. New York. EJ Ed Sievers SP
151. Rocky Mt Bighorn Sheep Hamilton- Herb Pennock SP
152. Bugtussle Bugs Boobarne- Rube Geyer RP
153. Stockton Ports Max - Jimmy Slagle OF
154. Homestead Grays Paco - Bruce Petway C
155. Baltimore Orioles Hittmens Art Fromme RP
156. Saginaw Hitchhikers Bart. Connie Mack C

Round 14

157. Saginaw Hitchhikers Bart - Bill Francis 3B/SS
158. Baltimore Orioles Hittmens - King Cole RP
159. Homestead Grays Paco - Jimmy Austin 3B
160. Stockton Ports Max - Tommy McCarthy OF
161. Bugtussle Bugs Boobarne- Lee Tannehill 3B
162. Rocky Mt Bighorn Sheep Hamilton - Lena Blackburne 2B
163. New York Ej - Jimmy Archer C
164. Republic of Texas Main Line
165 Gogogogo Cassavans Roland
166. Southeastern Todd
167. Port au Prince cracked conches Peter
168. Birmingham Barons Andy






Abbaticchio, Ed 1 1 IF
Abstein, Bill 1 1 1B
Ainsmith, Eddie 1 3 C
Anderson, Fred 1 2 S6
Anderson, John 1 1 1B/OF
Babb, Charlie 1 1 SS
Bagby Sr., Jim 1 3 S7*/R5
Baldwin, Lady *** 1 1
Barbeau, Jap 1 1 3B
Barnes, Ross *** 1 1 2B
Bauchman, Harry 1 2 2b / 3b
Bay, Harry 1 1 OF
Beaumont, Ginger 1 1 OF
Beck, Fred 1 2 OF
Becker, Beals 1 2 OF
Beckley, Jake 1 1 1B
Bedient, Hugh 1 2 R5
Bell, George 1 1 S8*
Bemis, Harry 1 1 C
Bernhard, Bill 1 1 S8*
Bescher, Bob 1 2 OF
Billings, Josh A. 1 3 C
Birmingham, Joe 1 1 OF
Bodie, Ping 1 2 OF
Booker, Pete 1 2 C/2B
Bradley, Bill 1 2 3B
Bradley, George *** 1 1
Brain, Dave 1 1 UT
Bransfield, Kitty 1 1 1B
Breitenstein, Ted *** 1 1 S9
Bressler, Rube 1 4 OF
Bridwell, Al 1 2 SS
Brockett, Lew 1 1 R5
Brown, Boardwalk 1 2 S7/R5
Browning, Pete *** 1 1 cF
Buelow, Fritz 1 1 C
Burkett, Jesse 1 1 OF
Burns, Ed 1 2 C
Burns, Tom *** 1 1 3b
Byrne, Bobby 1 2 3B
Caffyn, Ben 1 1 OF
Camnitz, Howie 1 1 S8*/R5
Cannell, Rip 1 1 OF
Carrick, Bill 1 1 S8*
Carrigan, Bill 1 2 C
Casey, Doc 1 1 UT
Cassidy, Joe 1 1 SS/UT
Cather, Ted 1 2 OF
Chalmers, George 1 2 S8/R5
Chance, Frank 1 1 1B
Chesbro, Jack 1 1 S9*
Clarke, Nig 1 2 C
Clarkson, John *** 1 1
Clements, Jack 1 1 C
Collins, Ray 1 2 S8/R3
Congalton, Bunk 1 1 OF
Connor, Roger *** 1 1 1B
Conroy, Wid 1 1 UT
Cook, Doc 1 2 OF
Cooley, Duff 1 1 OF
Corcoran, Larry *** 1 1
Corcoran, Tommy 1 1 SS
Coughlin, Bill 1 1 3B
Crawford, Samuel 1 4 S7/R2
Criger, Lou 1 1 C
Cross, Lave 1 1 3B
Cummings, Candy*** 1 1
Cuppy, Nig *** 1 1 S9*
Cutshaw, George 1 3 2B
Dahlen, Bill 1 1 ss
Daubert, Jake 1 3 1B
Dauss, Hooks 1 3 S7*/R5
Davis, George 1 1 SS
Davis, Harry 1 2 1B
Deal, Charlie 1 2 3b
Delahanty, Frank 1 2 OF
Delahanty, Jim 1 2 UT
Delahanty, Joe 1 1 OF
Dell, Wheezer 1 2 S7/R5
Demaree, Al 1 2 S7*/R5
Demontreville, Gene 1 1 2B/IF
Derrick, Claud 1 1 IF
Devlin, Art 1 1 3B/IF
Devore, Josh 1 1 OF
Dinneen, Bill 1 1 S9*
Dixon, Steven 1 2 S7/R2
Donahue, Jiggs 1 1 1B
Donahue, Red *** 1 1 S9*/R4
Donlin, Mike 1 1 OF
Donovan, Patsy 1 1 OF
Dooin, Red 1 2 C
Doolan, Mickey 1 2 SS
Dougherty, Patsy 1 1 OF/3B
Douglas, Phil 1 3 S7*/R5
Drucke, Louis 1 1 S6/R4
Duffy, Hugh 1 1 OF
Duncan, Pete 1 4 lf/ rf
Duryea, Jesse *** 1 1
Eells, Harry 1 1 R5
Egan, Dick 1 2 2B/SS
Elberfeld, Kid 1 1 SS
Engle, Clyde 1 2 UT
Evans, Steve 1 2 OF
Ewing, Bob 1 1 S9*
Ewing, Buck *** 1 1 1B
Falkenberg, Cy 1 2 S9/R5
Ferguson, Charlie 1 1
Ferris, Hobe 1 1 2B
Ferry, Jack 1 1 R3
Fisher, Ray 1 2 S7*/R5
Flack, Max 1 3 OF
Flick, Elmer 1 1 OF
Fogarty, Jim *** 1 1 CF
Foster, Eddie 1 3 3b
Fraser, Chick 1 1 S9*
Freeman, Buck 1 1 OF
Frock, Sam 1 1 S6/R5
Galvin, Pud *** 1 1
Gandil, Chick 1 2 1B
Ganley, Bob 1 1 OF
Gedeon, Joe 1 2 2B
George, Lefty 1 2 R5
Gessler, Doc 1 1 OF/1B
Gibson, George 1 2 C
Gibson, Norwood 1 1 S8
Glasscock, Jack *** 1 1 SS
Glaze, Ralph 1 1 R5
Gleason, Kid 1 1 2B
Gowdy, Hank 1 4 C
Grady, Mike 1 1 C
Grant, Eddie 1 2 3B
Grant, Leroy 1 3 1b
Gray, Dolly 1 1 S8*
Green, Danny 1 1 OF
Griffith, Clark 1 1 S8*
Griffith, Tommy 1 3 OF
Griggs, Art 1 2 UT
Groom, Bob 1 2 S7*
Hahn, Noodles 1 1 S9*
Hall, Charley 1 2 R3
Hamilton, Earl 1 3 S7*/R5
Hankinson, Frank *** 1 1
Hanlon, Ned *** 1 1 CF
Harmon, Bob 1 2 S9*
Harper, Jack 1 1 S8*
Hartsel, Topsy 1 1 OF
Hartzell, Roy 1 2 OF
Hawley, Pink 1 1 S9*
Hecker, Guy *** 1 1
Hendrix, Claude 1 2 S8/R5
Henry, John 1 2 C
Hess, Otto 1 2 S9*/R5
Hickman, Charlie 1 1 1B
High, Hugh 1 2 OF
Hinchman, Bill 1 2 OF
Hoblitzell, Doc 1 2 1B
Hoffman, Danny 1 1 OF
Hofman, Solly 1 2 UT
Hogg, Bill 1 1 S7*/R5
Holmes, Ducky 1 1 CF/OF
Howell, Harry 1 1 S9*
Hoy, Dummy 1 1 OF
Hughes, Long Tom 1 1 S8*
Hummel, John 1 2 2B
Humphries, Bert 1 2 R5
Isbell, Frank 1 1 UT
Jackson, Jim 1 1 OF
Jeffries, Jim 1 4 S9
Jenkins, Horace 1 2 S7/R2
Johnson, Home Run 1 1
Johnson, School Boy 1 2 S8*
Johnston, Doc 1 3 1B
Jones, Davy 1 2 OF
Jones, Fielder 1 2 OF
Jones, Tom 1 1 1B
Jordan, Tim 1 1 1B
Joss, Addie 1 1 S9*
Keefe, Tim *** 1 1
Keeler, Willie 1 1 OF
Kelley, Joe 1 1 LF/1B/3B
Kennedy, Brickyard *** 1 1 S8*
Killian, Ed 1 1 S8/R5
King, Silver *** 1 1
Kitson, Frank *** 1 1 S8*/R2
Kittridge, Malachi 1 1 C
Kling, Johnny 1 1 C
Knabe, Otto 1 2 2B
Knetzer, Elmer 1 2 R5
Konetchy, Ed 1 2 1B
Kopf, Larry 1 3 IF
Lachance, Candy 1 1 1B
Lake, Joe 1 1 S8
Lapp, Jack 1 2 C
Lavan, Doc 1 3 SS
Leever, Sam 1 1 S8*
Leever, Sam 1 1 R3
Leifield, Lefty 1 2 S7*/R5
Lewis, Duffy 1 2 OF
Livingston, Paddy 1 2 C
Lobert, Hans 1 2 3B
Long, Herman 1 1 SS
Lord, Bris 1 1 OF
Lord, Harry 1 2 3B/OF/SS
Lowe, Bobby 1 1 2B/3B
Luderus, Fred 1 2 1B
Lumley, Harry 1 1 OF
Lundgren, Carl 1 1 S8*
Maddox, Nick 1 1 S7*
Maisel, Fritz 1 2 3B
Mann, Les 1 4 OF
Maxwell, Bert 1 1 S7/R3
Mayer, Erskine 1 2 S7*/R5
McBride, George 1 2 SS
McCormick, Barry 1 1 UT
McCormick, Jim 1 1
McGann, Dan 1 1 1B
McGinnity, Joe 1 1 S9*
McGraw, John 1 1 3B
McGuire, Deacon 1 1 C
McInnis, Stuffy 1 3 1B
McIntyre, Matty 1 1 DET
McKechnie, Bill 1 2 3B
McPhee, Bid *** 1 1 2B
Miller, Dots 1 2 2B
Miller, Otto 1 3 C
Mitchell, Mike 1 1 OF
Mitchell, Roy 1 2 R5
Mitchell, Willie 1 2 S7*
Moeller, Danny 1 2 OF
Mogridge, George 1 3 S8*
Monroe, Bill 1 1 3B/2b/SS
Moore, Earl 1 1 S9*
Moran, Pat 1 1 C
Morgan, Cy 1 1 S8*/R5
Morgan, Ray 1 2 2B
Moriarty, George 1 2 3B/1B
Mowrey, Mike 1 2 3B
Mullin, George 1 2 S8*
Murphy, Danny 1 2 OF
Murphy, Eddie 1 3 OF
Murray, Red 1 2 OF
Myers, Hap 1 2 OF
Myers, Hy 1 3 OF/3B
Nichols, Kid 1 1 S9*
Niehaus, Dick 1 2 R3
Niehoff, Bert 1 2 2B
Nunamaker, Les 1 3 C
O'Brien, Jack J. 1 1 UT
O'Rourke, Jim 1 1 LF
Oldring, Rube 1 2 CF
Olson, Ivy 1 3 UT
Orth, Al 1 1 S9*
Owen, Frank 1 1 S9*
Parent, Freddy 1 1 SS
Paskert, Dode 1 2 OF/1B
Patten, Casey 1 1 S9*
Patterson, Roy 1 1 S9*
Pelty, Barney 1 1 S8*
Pfeffer, Jeff 1 3 S9*
Pfiester, Jack 1 1 S8*
Phelan, Art 1 2 3B
Phelps, Ed 1 1 C
Phillippe, Deacon *** 1 1 S8*
Pipp, Wally 1 4 1B
Pittinger, Togie 1 1 S9*
Poles, Spot 1 3 cf/LF/rf
Powell, Jack 1 1 S9*
Powell, Ray 1 3 LF/CF
Pruiett, Tex 1 1 R5
Quinn, Jack 1 5 S8*/R3
Radbourn, Charley *** 1 1
Rawlings, Johnny 1 3 2B
Raymer, Fred 1 1 IF
Raymond, Bugs 1 1 R5
Rhoads, Bob 1 1 S9*
Rickey, Branch 1 1 C
Ritchey, Claude 1 1 2B
Robinson, Wilbert 1 1 C
Rossman, Claude 1 1 1B
Rucker, Nap 1 2 S8*
Rusie, Amos *** 1 1 S9*
Ryan, Jimmy 1 1 OF
Schaefer, Germany 1 2 2B/UT
Schmidt, Boss 1 1 C
Schneider, Pete 1 2 S8*/R5
Schreckengost, Ossee 1 1 C
Schulz, Al 1 2 R5
Scott, Everett 1 3 SS
Scott, Jim 1 2 S7*/R5
Seward, Ed *** 1 1
Seybold, Socks 1 1 OF
Shanks, Howie 1 3 OF
Sheckard, Jimmy 1 1 OF
Shotton, Burt 1 3 OF
Simmons, Hack 1 2 IF
Smith, Heinie 1 1 2B
Smith, Red 1 2 3B
Smoot, Homer 1 1 OF
Sowders, Bill *** 1 1
Spalding, Al 1 1
Sparks, Tully 1 1 S8*
Speer, Kid 1 1 S8/R5
Stahl, Chick 1 1 UT
Stahl, Jake 1 1 UT
Steinfeldt, Harry 1 1 3B
Stenzel, Jake *** 1 1 Cf/LF
Stock, Milt 1 3 3B
Stone, George 1 1 OF
Stovall, George 1 2 1B/UT
Sugden, Joe 1 1 C
Sullivan Sr., Billy 1 2 C
Summers, Ed 1 1 S9*
Sweeney, Bill 1 1 2B
Sweeney, Ed 1 2 C
Tannehill, Jesse 1 1 S9*
Taylor, Dummy 1 1 R5
Taylor, Jack 1 1 S9*/R3
Tenney, Fred 1 1 1b
Thomas, Roy 1 1 OF
Thompson, Sam 1 1 RF
Thorpe, Jim 1 2 OF
Tiernan, Mike *** 1 1 RF
Titus, John 1 1 OF
Tobin, Jack 1 3 OF
Toney, Fred 1 3 S7*/R5
Townsend, Happy 1 1 S7/R5
Turner, Terry 1 2 SS/IF
Tyler, Lefty 1 2 S9*
Unglaub, Bob 1 1 1B
Van Haltren, George 1 1 CF
Wagner, Heinie 1 2 SS/IF
Walker, Tilly 1 3 CF
Wallace, Bobby 1 2 SS
Ward, John *** 1 1 SS/2b
Wares, Buzzy 1 1 SS/2B
Weilman, Carl 1 2 S8*/R5
Weimer, Jake 1 1 S8*
Welch, Mickey *** 1 1
White, Deacon 1 1 C/RF/CF/LF/(1B)
White, Kirby 1 1 S6/R5
White, Will *** 1 1
Whitney, Jim 1 1
Whitted, Possum 1 3 OF/1B
Williams, Jimmy 1 1 2B
Willis, Vic *** 1 1 S9*
Wiltse, Hooks 1 2 S7/R4
Winter, George 1 1 S9*/R5
Yerkes, Steve 1 2 2B
Young, Cy 1 1 S9*
Young, Irv 1 1 S9*
Zimmer, Chief 1 1 C
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Re: Barts Alternative History. 1.0

PostWed Jun 12, 2024 8:22 am

If I'm not mistaken, I believe Bryan mentioned a 12 hour pick limit. This would mean that Roland can pick at 9:23 this morning if Daniel has not picked by then
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Re: Barts Alternative History. 1.0

PostWed Jun 12, 2024 9:20 am

Peter Duncan to Texas
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Re: Barts Alternative History. 1.0

PostWed Jun 12, 2024 9:39 am

He’s in under the wire.
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Re: Barts Alternative History. 1.0

PostWed Jun 12, 2024 9:46 am

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Round 14

157. Saginaw Hitchhikers Bart - Bill Francis 3B/SS
158. Baltimore Orioles Hittmens - King Cole RP
159. Homestead Grays Paco - Jimmy Austin 3B
160. Stockton Ports Max - Tommy McCarthy OF
161. Bugtussle Bugs Boobarne- Lee Tannehill 3B
162. Rocky Mt Bighorn Sheep Hamilton - Lena Blackburne 2B
163. New York Ej - Jimmy Archer C
164. Republic of Texas Main Line. Pete Duncan OF
165 Gogogogo Cassavans Roland
166. Southeastern Todd
167. Port au Prince cracked conches Peter
168. Birmingham Barons Andy

169. Birmingham Barons Andy
170. Port Au Prince Cracked Conches Peter
171 Southeastern Todd
172 Gogogogo Cassavas Roland
173 Republic of Texas Main line
174 New York. EJ
175 Rocky Mt Bighorn Sheep Hamilton
176 Bugtussle Bugs Boobarne
177 Stockton Ports Max
178. Homestead Grays Paco
179 Baltimore Orioles Hittmens
180. Saginaw Hitchhikers Bart


181. Saginaw Hitchhikers Bart
182. Baltimore Orioles Hittmens
183. Homestead Grays Paco
184. Stockton Ports Max
185. Bugtussle Bugs Boobarne
186. Rocky Mt Bighorn Sheep Hamilton
187. New York Ej
188. Republic of Texas Main Line
189. Gogogogo Cassavans Roland
190. Southeastern Todd
191. Port au Prince cracked conches Peter
192. Birmingham Barons Andy







Abbaticchio, Ed 1 1 IF
Abstein, Bill 1 1 1B
Ainsmith, Eddie 1 3 C
Anderson, Fred 1 2 S6
Anderson, John 1 1 1B/OF
Babb, Charlie 1 1 SS
Bagby Sr., Jim 1 3 S7*/R5
Baldwin, Lady *** 1 1
Barbeau, Jap 1 1 3B
Barnes, Ross *** 1 1 2B
Bauchman, Harry 1 2 2b / 3b
Bay, Harry 1 1 OF
Beaumont, Ginger 1 1 OF
Beck, Fred 1 2 OF
Becker, Beals 1 2 OF
Beckley, Jake 1 1 1B
Bedient, Hugh 1 2 R5
Bell, George 1 1 S8*
Bemis, Harry 1 1 C
Bernhard, Bill 1 1 S8*
Bescher, Bob 1 2 OF
Billings, Josh A. 1 3 C
Birmingham, Joe 1 1 OF
Bodie, Ping 1 2 OF
Booker, Pete 1 2 C/2B
Bradley, Bill 1 2 3B
Bradley, George *** 1 1
Brain, Dave 1 1 UT
Bransfield, Kitty 1 1 1B
Breitenstein, Ted *** 1 1 S9
Bressler, Rube 1 4 OF
Bridwell, Al 1 2 SS
Brockett, Lew 1 1 R5
Brown, Boardwalk 1 2 S7/R5
Browning, Pete *** 1 1 cF
Buelow, Fritz 1 1 C
Burkett, Jesse 1 1 OF
Burns, Ed 1 2 C
Burns, Tom *** 1 1 3b
Byrne, Bobby 1 2 3B
Caffyn, Ben 1 1 OF
Camnitz, Howie 1 1 S8*/R5
Cannell, Rip 1 1 OF
Carrick, Bill 1 1 S8*
Carrigan, Bill 1 2 C
Casey, Doc 1 1 UT
Cassidy, Joe 1 1 SS/UT
Cather, Ted 1 2 OF
Chalmers, George 1 2 S8/R5
Chance, Frank 1 1 1B
Chesbro, Jack 1 1 S9*
Clarke, Nig 1 2 C
Clarkson, John *** 1 1
Clements, Jack 1 1 C
Collins, Ray 1 2 S8/R3
Congalton, Bunk 1 1 OF
Connor, Roger *** 1 1 1B
Conroy, Wid 1 1 UT
Cook, Doc 1 2 OF
Cooley, Duff 1 1 OF
Corcoran, Larry *** 1 1
Corcoran, Tommy 1 1 SS
Coughlin, Bill 1 1 3B
Crawford, Samuel 1 4 S7/R2
Criger, Lou 1 1 C
Cross, Lave 1 1 3B
Cummings, Candy*** 1 1
Cuppy, Nig *** 1 1 S9*
Cutshaw, George 1 3 2B
Dahlen, Bill 1 1 ss
Daubert, Jake 1 3 1B
Dauss, Hooks 1 3 S7*/R5
Davis, George 1 1 SS
Davis, Harry 1 2 1B
Deal, Charlie 1 2 3b
Delahanty, Frank 1 2 OF
Delahanty, Jim 1 2 UT
Delahanty, Joe 1 1 OF
Dell, Wheezer 1 2 S7/R5
Demaree, Al 1 2 S7*/R5
Demontreville, Gene 1 1 2B/IF
Derrick, Claud 1 1 IF
Devlin, Art 1 1 3B/IF
Devore, Josh 1 1 OF
Dinneen, Bill 1 1 S9*
Dixon, Steven 1 2 S7/R2
Donahue, Jiggs 1 1 1B
Donahue, Red *** 1 1 S9*/R4
Donlin, Mike 1 1 OF
Donovan, Patsy 1 1 OF
Dooin, Red 1 2 C
Doolan, Mickey 1 2 SS
Dougherty, Patsy 1 1 OF/3B
Douglas, Phil 1 3 S7*/R5
Drucke, Louis 1 1 S6/R4
Duffy, Hugh 1 1 OF
Duryea, Jesse *** 1 1
Eells, Harry 1 1 R5
Egan, Dick 1 2 2B/SS
Elberfeld, Kid 1 1 SS
Engle, Clyde 1 2 UT
Evans, Steve 1 2 OF
Ewing, Bob 1 1 S9*
Ewing, Buck *** 1 1 1B
Falkenberg, Cy 1 2 S9/R5
Ferguson, Charlie 1 1
Ferris, Hobe 1 1 2B
Ferry, Jack 1 1 R3
Fisher, Ray 1 2 S7*/R5
Flack, Max 1 3 OF
Flick, Elmer 1 1 OF
Fogarty, Jim *** 1 1 CF
Foster, Eddie 1 3 3b
Fraser, Chick 1 1 S9*
Freeman, Buck 1 1 OF
Frock, Sam 1 1 S6/R5
Galvin, Pud *** 1 1
Gandil, Chick 1 2 1B
Ganley, Bob 1 1 OF
Gedeon, Joe 1 2 2B
George, Lefty 1 2 R5
Gessler, Doc 1 1 OF/1B
Gibson, George 1 2 C
Gibson, Norwood 1 1 S8
Glasscock, Jack *** 1 1 SS
Glaze, Ralph 1 1 R5
Gleason, Kid 1 1 2B
Gowdy, Hank 1 4 C
Grady, Mike 1 1 C
Grant, Eddie 1 2 3B
Grant, Leroy 1 3 1b
Gray, Dolly 1 1 S8*
Green, Danny 1 1 OF
Griffith, Clark 1 1 S8*
Griffith, Tommy 1 3 OF
Griggs, Art 1 2 UT
Groom, Bob 1 2 S7*
Hahn, Noodles 1 1 S9*
Hall, Charley 1 2 R3
Hamilton, Earl 1 3 S7*/R5
Hankinson, Frank *** 1 1
Hanlon, Ned *** 1 1 CF
Harmon, Bob 1 2 S9*
Harper, Jack 1 1 S8*
Hartsel, Topsy 1 1 OF
Hartzell, Roy 1 2 OF
Hawley, Pink 1 1 S9*
Hecker, Guy *** 1 1
Hendrix, Claude 1 2 S8/R5
Henry, John 1 2 C
Hess, Otto 1 2 S9*/R5
Hickman, Charlie 1 1 1B
High, Hugh 1 2 OF
Hinchman, Bill 1 2 OF
Hoblitzell, Doc 1 2 1B
Hoffman, Danny 1 1 OF
Hofman, Solly 1 2 UT
Hogg, Bill 1 1 S7*/R5
Holmes, Ducky 1 1 CF/OF
Howell, Harry 1 1 S9*
Hoy, Dummy 1 1 OF
Hughes, Long Tom 1 1 S8*
Hummel, John 1 2 2B
Humphries, Bert 1 2 R5
Isbell, Frank 1 1 UT
Jackson, Jim 1 1 OF
Jeffries, Jim 1 4 S9
Jenkins, Horace 1 2 S7/R2
Johnson, Home Run 1 1
Johnson, School Boy 1 2 S8*
Johnston, Doc 1 3 1B
Jones, Davy 1 2 OF
Jones, Fielder 1 2 OF
Jones, Tom 1 1 1B
Jordan, Tim 1 1 1B
Joss, Addie 1 1 S9*
Keefe, Tim *** 1 1
Keeler, Willie 1 1 OF
Kelley, Joe 1 1 LF/1B/3B
Kennedy, Brickyard *** 1 1 S8*
Killian, Ed 1 1 S8/R5
King, Silver *** 1 1
Kitson, Frank *** 1 1 S8*/R2
Kittridge, Malachi 1 1 C
Kling, Johnny 1 1 C
Knabe, Otto 1 2 2B
Knetzer, Elmer 1 2 R5
Konetchy, Ed 1 2 1B
Kopf, Larry 1 3 IF
Lachance, Candy 1 1 1B
Lake, Joe 1 1 S8
Lapp, Jack 1 2 C
Lavan, Doc 1 3 SS
Leever, Sam 1 1 S8*
Leever, Sam 1 1 R3
Leifield, Lefty 1 2 S7*/R5
Lewis, Duffy 1 2 OF
Livingston, Paddy 1 2 C
Lobert, Hans 1 2 3B
Long, Herman 1 1 SS
Lord, Bris 1 1 OF
Lord, Harry 1 2 3B/OF/SS
Lowe, Bobby 1 1 2B/3B
Luderus, Fred 1 2 1B
Lumley, Harry 1 1 OF
Lundgren, Carl 1 1 S8*
Maddox, Nick 1 1 S7*
Maisel, Fritz 1 2 3B
Mann, Les 1 4 OF
Maxwell, Bert 1 1 S7/R3
Mayer, Erskine 1 2 S7*/R5
McBride, George 1 2 SS
McCormick, Barry 1 1 UT
McCormick, Jim 1 1
McGann, Dan 1 1 1B
McGinnity, Joe 1 1 S9*
McGraw, John 1 1 3B
McGuire, Deacon 1 1 C
McInnis, Stuffy 1 3 1B
McIntyre, Matty 1 1 DET
McKechnie, Bill 1 2 3B
McPhee, Bid *** 1 1 2B
Miller, Dots 1 2 2B
Miller, Otto 1 3 C
Mitchell, Mike 1 1 OF
Mitchell, Roy 1 2 R5
Mitchell, Willie 1 2 S7*
Moeller, Danny 1 2 OF
Mogridge, George 1 3 S8*
Monroe, Bill 1 1 3B/2b/SS
Moore, Earl 1 1 S9*
Moran, Pat 1 1 C
Morgan, Cy 1 1 S8*/R5
Morgan, Ray 1 2 2B
Moriarty, George 1 2 3B/1B
Mowrey, Mike 1 2 3B
Mullin, George 1 2 S8*
Murphy, Danny 1 2 OF
Murphy, Eddie 1 3 OF
Murray, Red 1 2 OF
Myers, Hap 1 2 OF
Myers, Hy 1 3 OF/3B
Nichols, Kid 1 1 S9*
Niehaus, Dick 1 2 R3
Niehoff, Bert 1 2 2B
Nunamaker, Les 1 3 C
O'Brien, Jack J. 1 1 UT
O'Rourke, Jim 1 1 LF
Oldring, Rube 1 2 CF
Olson, Ivy 1 3 UT
Orth, Al 1 1 S9*
Owen, Frank 1 1 S9*
Parent, Freddy 1 1 SS
Paskert, Dode 1 2 OF/1B
Patten, Casey 1 1 S9*
Patterson, Roy 1 1 S9*
Pelty, Barney 1 1 S8*
Pfeffer, Jeff 1 3 S9*
Pfiester, Jack 1 1 S8*
Phelan, Art 1 2 3B
Phelps, Ed 1 1 C
Phillippe, Deacon *** 1 1 S8*
Pipp, Wally 1 4 1B
Pittinger, Togie 1 1 S9*
Poles, Spot 1 3 cf/LF/rf
Powell, Jack 1 1 S9*
Powell, Ray 1 3 LF/CF
Pruiett, Tex 1 1 R5
Quinn, Jack 1 5 S8*/R3
Radbourn, Charley *** 1 1
Rawlings, Johnny 1 3 2B
Raymer, Fred 1 1 IF
Raymond, Bugs 1 1 R5
Rhoads, Bob 1 1 S9*
Rickey, Branch 1 1 C
Ritchey, Claude 1 1 2B
Robinson, Wilbert 1 1 C
Rossman, Claude 1 1 1B
Rucker, Nap 1 2 S8*
Rusie, Amos *** 1 1 S9*
Ryan, Jimmy 1 1 OF
Schaefer, Germany 1 2 2B/UT
Schmidt, Boss 1 1 C
Schneider, Pete 1 2 S8*/R5
Schreckengost, Ossee 1 1 C
Schulz, Al 1 2 R5
Scott, Everett 1 3 SS
Scott, Jim 1 2 S7*/R5
Seward, Ed *** 1 1
Seybold, Socks 1 1 OF
Shanks, Howie 1 3 OF
Sheckard, Jimmy 1 1 OF
Shotton, Burt 1 3 OF
Simmons, Hack 1 2 IF
Smith, Heinie 1 1 2B
Smith, Red 1 2 3B
Smoot, Homer 1 1 OF
Sowders, Bill *** 1 1
Spalding, Al 1 1
Sparks, Tully 1 1 S8*
Speer, Kid 1 1 S8/R5
Stahl, Chick 1 1 UT
Stahl, Jake 1 1 UT
Steinfeldt, Harry 1 1 3B
Stenzel, Jake *** 1 1 Cf/LF
Stock, Milt 1 3 3B
Stone, George 1 1 OF
Stovall, George 1 2 1B/UT
Sugden, Joe 1 1 C
Sullivan Sr., Billy 1 2 C
Summers, Ed 1 1 S9*
Sweeney, Bill 1 1 2B
Sweeney, Ed 1 2 C
Tannehill, Jesse 1 1 S9*
Taylor, Dummy 1 1 R5
Taylor, Jack 1 1 S9*/R3
Tenney, Fred 1 1 1b
Thomas, Roy 1 1 OF
Thompson, Sam 1 1 RF
Thorpe, Jim 1 2 OF
Tiernan, Mike *** 1 1 RF
Titus, John 1 1 OF
Tobin, Jack 1 3 OF
Toney, Fred 1 3 S7*/R5
Townsend, Happy 1 1 S7/R5
Turner, Terry 1 2 SS/IF
Tyler, Lefty 1 2 S9*
Unglaub, Bob 1 1 1B
Van Haltren, George 1 1 CF
Wagner, Heinie 1 2 SS/IF
Walker, Tilly 1 3 CF
Wallace, Bobby 1 2 SS
Ward, John *** 1 1 SS/2b
Wares, Buzzy 1 1 SS/2B
Weilman, Carl 1 2 S8*/R5
Weimer, Jake 1 1 S8*
Welch, Mickey *** 1 1
White, Deacon 1 1 C/RF/CF/LF/(1B)
White, Kirby 1 1 S6/R5
White, Will *** 1 1
Whitney, Jim 1 1
Whitted, Possum 1 3 OF/1B
Williams, Jimmy 1 1 2B
Willis, Vic *** 1 1 S9*
Wiltse, Hooks 1 2 S7/R4
Winter, George 1 1 S9*/R5
Yerkes, Steve 1 2 2B
Young, Cy 1 1 S9*
Young, Irv 1 1 S9*
Zimmer, Chief 1 1 C
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Re: Barts Alternative History. 1.0

PostWed Jun 12, 2024 10:12 am

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Round 14

157. Saginaw Hitchhikers Bart - Bill Francis 3B/SS
158. Baltimore Orioles Hittmens - King Cole RP
159. Homestead Grays Paco - Jimmy Austin 3B
160. Stockton Ports Max - Tommy McCarthy OF
161. Bugtussle Bugs Boobarne- Lee Tannehill 3B
162. Rocky Mt Bighorn Sheep Hamilton - Lena Blackburne 2B
163. New York Ej - Jimmy Archer C
164. Republic of Texas Main Line. Pete Duncan OF
165 Gogogogo Cassavans Roland Hugh Bedient RP
166. Southeastern Todd
167. Port au Prince cracked conches Peter
168. Birmingham Barons Andy

169. Birmingham Barons Andy
170. Port Au Prince Cracked Conches Peter
171 Southeastern Todd
172 Gogogogo Cassavas Roland
173 Republic of Texas Main line
174 New York. EJ
175 Rocky Mt Bighorn Sheep Hamilton
176 Bugtussle Bugs Boobarne
177 Stockton Ports Max
178. Homestead Grays Paco
179 Baltimore Orioles Hittmens
180. Saginaw Hitchhikers Bart


181. Saginaw Hitchhikers Bart
182. Baltimore Orioles Hittmens
183. Homestead Grays Paco
184. Stockton Ports Max
185. Bugtussle Bugs Boobarne
186. Rocky Mt Bighorn Sheep Hamilton
187. New York Ej
188. Republic of Texas Main Line
189. Gogogogo Cassavans Roland
190. Southeastern Todd
191. Port au Prince cracked conches Peter
192. Birmingham Barons Andy







Abbaticchio, Ed 1 1 IF
Abstein, Bill 1 1 1B
Ainsmith, Eddie 1 3 C
Anderson, Fred 1 2 S6
Anderson, John 1 1 1B/OF
Babb, Charlie 1 1 SS
Bagby Sr., Jim 1 3 S7*/R5
Baldwin, Lady *** 1 1
Barbeau, Jap 1 1 3B
Barnes, Ross *** 1 1 2B
Bauchman, Harry 1 2 2b / 3b
Bay, Harry 1 1 OF
Beaumont, Ginger 1 1 OF
Beck, Fred 1 2 OF
Becker, Beals 1 2 OF
Beckley, Jake 1 1 1B
Bell, George 1 1 S8*
Bemis, Harry 1 1 C
Bernhard, Bill 1 1 S8*
Bescher, Bob 1 2 OF
Billings, Josh A. 1 3 C
Birmingham, Joe 1 1 OF
Bodie, Ping 1 2 OF
Booker, Pete 1 2 C/2B
Bradley, Bill 1 2 3B
Bradley, George *** 1 1
Brain, Dave 1 1 UT
Bransfield, Kitty 1 1 1B
Breitenstein, Ted *** 1 1 S9
Bressler, Rube 1 4 OF
Bridwell, Al 1 2 SS
Brockett, Lew 1 1 R5
Brown, Boardwalk 1 2 S7/R5
Browning, Pete *** 1 1 cF
Buelow, Fritz 1 1 C
Burkett, Jesse 1 1 OF
Burns, Ed 1 2 C
Burns, Tom *** 1 1 3b
Byrne, Bobby 1 2 3B
Caffyn, Ben 1 1 OF
Camnitz, Howie 1 1 S8*/R5
Cannell, Rip 1 1 OF
Carrick, Bill 1 1 S8*
Carrigan, Bill 1 2 C
Casey, Doc 1 1 UT
Cassidy, Joe 1 1 SS/UT
Cather, Ted 1 2 OF
Chalmers, George 1 2 S8/R5
Chance, Frank 1 1 1B
Chesbro, Jack 1 1 S9*
Clarke, Nig 1 2 C
Clarkson, John *** 1 1
Clements, Jack 1 1 C
Collins, Ray 1 2 S8/R3
Congalton, Bunk 1 1 OF
Connor, Roger *** 1 1 1B
Conroy, Wid 1 1 UT
Cook, Doc 1 2 OF
Cooley, Duff 1 1 OF
Corcoran, Larry *** 1 1
Corcoran, Tommy 1 1 SS
Coughlin, Bill 1 1 3B
Crawford, Samuel 1 4 S7/R2
Criger, Lou 1 1 C
Cross, Lave 1 1 3B
Cummings, Candy*** 1 1
Cuppy, Nig *** 1 1 S9*
Cutshaw, George 1 3 2B
Dahlen, Bill 1 1 ss
Daubert, Jake 1 3 1B
Dauss, Hooks 1 3 S7*/R5
Davis, George 1 1 SS
Davis, Harry 1 2 1B
Deal, Charlie 1 2 3b
Delahanty, Frank 1 2 OF
Delahanty, Jim 1 2 UT
Delahanty, Joe 1 1 OF
Dell, Wheezer 1 2 S7/R5
Demaree, Al 1 2 S7*/R5
Demontreville, Gene 1 1 2B/IF
Derrick, Claud 1 1 IF
Devlin, Art 1 1 3B/IF
Devore, Josh 1 1 OF
Dinneen, Bill 1 1 S9*
Dixon, Steven 1 2 S7/R2
Donahue, Jiggs 1 1 1B
Donahue, Red *** 1 1 S9*/R4
Donlin, Mike 1 1 OF
Donovan, Patsy 1 1 OF
Dooin, Red 1 2 C
Doolan, Mickey 1 2 SS
Dougherty, Patsy 1 1 OF/3B
Douglas, Phil 1 3 S7*/R5
Drucke, Louis 1 1 S6/R4
Duffy, Hugh 1 1 OF
Duryea, Jesse *** 1 1
Eells, Harry 1 1 R5
Egan, Dick 1 2 2B/SS
Elberfeld, Kid 1 1 SS
Engle, Clyde 1 2 UT
Evans, Steve 1 2 OF
Ewing, Bob 1 1 S9*
Ewing, Buck *** 1 1 1B
Falkenberg, Cy 1 2 S9/R5
Ferguson, Charlie 1 1
Ferris, Hobe 1 1 2B
Ferry, Jack 1 1 R3
Fisher, Ray 1 2 S7*/R5
Flack, Max 1 3 OF
Flick, Elmer 1 1 OF
Fogarty, Jim *** 1 1 CF
Foster, Eddie 1 3 3b
Fraser, Chick 1 1 S9*
Freeman, Buck 1 1 OF
Frock, Sam 1 1 S6/R5
Galvin, Pud *** 1 1
Gandil, Chick 1 2 1B
Ganley, Bob 1 1 OF
Gedeon, Joe 1 2 2B
George, Lefty 1 2 R5
Gessler, Doc 1 1 OF/1B
Gibson, George 1 2 C
Gibson, Norwood 1 1 S8
Glasscock, Jack *** 1 1 SS
Glaze, Ralph 1 1 R5
Gleason, Kid 1 1 2B
Gowdy, Hank 1 4 C
Grady, Mike 1 1 C
Grant, Eddie 1 2 3B
Grant, Leroy 1 3 1b
Gray, Dolly 1 1 S8*
Green, Danny 1 1 OF
Griffith, Clark 1 1 S8*
Griffith, Tommy 1 3 OF
Griggs, Art 1 2 UT
Groom, Bob 1 2 S7*
Hahn, Noodles 1 1 S9*
Hall, Charley 1 2 R3
Hamilton, Earl 1 3 S7*/R5
Hankinson, Frank *** 1 1
Hanlon, Ned *** 1 1 CF
Harmon, Bob 1 2 S9*
Harper, Jack 1 1 S8*
Hartsel, Topsy 1 1 OF
Hartzell, Roy 1 2 OF
Hawley, Pink 1 1 S9*
Hecker, Guy *** 1 1
Hendrix, Claude 1 2 S8/R5
Henry, John 1 2 C
Hess, Otto 1 2 S9*/R5
Hickman, Charlie 1 1 1B
High, Hugh 1 2 OF
Hinchman, Bill 1 2 OF
Hoblitzell, Doc 1 2 1B
Hoffman, Danny 1 1 OF
Hofman, Solly 1 2 UT
Hogg, Bill 1 1 S7*/R5
Holmes, Ducky 1 1 CF/OF
Howell, Harry 1 1 S9*
Hoy, Dummy 1 1 OF
Hughes, Long Tom 1 1 S8*
Hummel, John 1 2 2B
Humphries, Bert 1 2 R5
Isbell, Frank 1 1 UT
Jackson, Jim 1 1 OF
Jeffries, Jim 1 4 S9
Jenkins, Horace 1 2 S7/R2
Johnson, Home Run 1 1
Johnson, School Boy 1 2 S8*
Johnston, Doc 1 3 1B
Jones, Davy 1 2 OF
Jones, Fielder 1 2 OF
Jones, Tom 1 1 1B
Jordan, Tim 1 1 1B
Joss, Addie 1 1 S9*
Keefe, Tim *** 1 1
Keeler, Willie 1 1 OF
Kelley, Joe 1 1 LF/1B/3B
Kennedy, Brickyard *** 1 1 S8*
Killian, Ed 1 1 S8/R5
King, Silver *** 1 1
Kitson, Frank *** 1 1 S8*/R2
Kittridge, Malachi 1 1 C
Kling, Johnny 1 1 C
Knabe, Otto 1 2 2B
Knetzer, Elmer 1 2 R5
Konetchy, Ed 1 2 1B
Kopf, Larry 1 3 IF
Lachance, Candy 1 1 1B
Lake, Joe 1 1 S8
Lapp, Jack 1 2 C
Lavan, Doc 1 3 SS
Leever, Sam 1 1 S8*
Leever, Sam 1 1 R3
Leifield, Lefty 1 2 S7*/R5
Lewis, Duffy 1 2 OF
Livingston, Paddy 1 2 C
Lobert, Hans 1 2 3B
Long, Herman 1 1 SS
Lord, Bris 1 1 OF
Lord, Harry 1 2 3B/OF/SS
Lowe, Bobby 1 1 2B/3B
Luderus, Fred 1 2 1B
Lumley, Harry 1 1 OF
Lundgren, Carl 1 1 S8*
Maddox, Nick 1 1 S7*
Maisel, Fritz 1 2 3B
Mann, Les 1 4 OF
Maxwell, Bert 1 1 S7/R3
Mayer, Erskine 1 2 S7*/R5
McBride, George 1 2 SS
McCormick, Barry 1 1 UT
McCormick, Jim 1 1
McGann, Dan 1 1 1B
McGinnity, Joe 1 1 S9*
McGraw, John 1 1 3B
McGuire, Deacon 1 1 C
McInnis, Stuffy 1 3 1B
McIntyre, Matty 1 1 DET
McKechnie, Bill 1 2 3B
McPhee, Bid *** 1 1 2B
Miller, Dots 1 2 2B
Miller, Otto 1 3 C
Mitchell, Mike 1 1 OF
Mitchell, Roy 1 2 R5
Mitchell, Willie 1 2 S7*
Moeller, Danny 1 2 OF
Mogridge, George 1 3 S8*
Monroe, Bill 1 1 3B/2b/SS
Moore, Earl 1 1 S9*
Moran, Pat 1 1 C
Morgan, Cy 1 1 S8*/R5
Morgan, Ray 1 2 2B
Moriarty, George 1 2 3B/1B
Mowrey, Mike 1 2 3B
Mullin, George 1 2 S8*
Murphy, Danny 1 2 OF
Murphy, Eddie 1 3 OF
Murray, Red 1 2 OF
Myers, Hap 1 2 OF
Myers, Hy 1 3 OF/3B
Nichols, Kid 1 1 S9*
Niehaus, Dick 1 2 R3
Niehoff, Bert 1 2 2B
Nunamaker, Les 1 3 C
O'Brien, Jack J. 1 1 UT
O'Rourke, Jim 1 1 LF
Oldring, Rube 1 2 CF
Olson, Ivy 1 3 UT
Orth, Al 1 1 S9*
Owen, Frank 1 1 S9*
Parent, Freddy 1 1 SS
Paskert, Dode 1 2 OF/1B
Patten, Casey 1 1 S9*
Patterson, Roy 1 1 S9*
Pelty, Barney 1 1 S8*
Pfeffer, Jeff 1 3 S9*
Pfiester, Jack 1 1 S8*
Phelan, Art 1 2 3B
Phelps, Ed 1 1 C
Phillippe, Deacon *** 1 1 S8*
Pipp, Wally 1 4 1B
Pittinger, Togie 1 1 S9*
Poles, Spot 1 3 cf/LF/rf
Powell, Jack 1 1 S9*
Powell, Ray 1 3 LF/CF
Pruiett, Tex 1 1 R5
Quinn, Jack 1 5 S8*/R3
Radbourn, Charley *** 1 1
Rawlings, Johnny 1 3 2B
Raymer, Fred 1 1 IF
Raymond, Bugs 1 1 R5
Rhoads, Bob 1 1 S9*
Rickey, Branch 1 1 C
Ritchey, Claude 1 1 2B
Robinson, Wilbert 1 1 C
Rossman, Claude 1 1 1B
Rucker, Nap 1 2 S8*
Rusie, Amos *** 1 1 S9*
Ryan, Jimmy 1 1 OF
Schaefer, Germany 1 2 2B/UT
Schmidt, Boss 1 1 C
Schneider, Pete 1 2 S8*/R5
Schreckengost, Ossee 1 1 C
Schulz, Al 1 2 R5
Scott, Everett 1 3 SS
Scott, Jim 1 2 S7*/R5
Seward, Ed *** 1 1
Seybold, Socks 1 1 OF
Shanks, Howie 1 3 OF
Sheckard, Jimmy 1 1 OF
Shotton, Burt 1 3 OF
Simmons, Hack 1 2 IF
Smith, Heinie 1 1 2B
Smith, Red 1 2 3B
Smoot, Homer 1 1 OF
Sowders, Bill *** 1 1
Spalding, Al 1 1
Sparks, Tully 1 1 S8*
Speer, Kid 1 1 S8/R5
Stahl, Chick 1 1 UT
Stahl, Jake 1 1 UT
Steinfeldt, Harry 1 1 3B
Stenzel, Jake *** 1 1 Cf/LF
Stock, Milt 1 3 3B
Stone, George 1 1 OF
Stovall, George 1 2 1B/UT
Sugden, Joe 1 1 C
Sullivan Sr., Billy 1 2 C
Summers, Ed 1 1 S9*
Sweeney, Bill 1 1 2B
Sweeney, Ed 1 2 C
Tannehill, Jesse 1 1 S9*
Taylor, Dummy 1 1 R5
Taylor, Jack 1 1 S9*/R3
Tenney, Fred 1 1 1b
Thomas, Roy 1 1 OF
Thompson, Sam 1 1 RF
Thorpe, Jim 1 2 OF
Tiernan, Mike *** 1 1 RF
Titus, John 1 1 OF
Tobin, Jack 1 3 OF
Toney, Fred 1 3 S7*/R5
Townsend, Happy 1 1 S7/R5
Turner, Terry 1 2 SS/IF
Tyler, Lefty 1 2 S9*
Unglaub, Bob 1 1 1B
Van Haltren, George 1 1 CF
Wagner, Heinie 1 2 SS/IF
Walker, Tilly 1 3 CF
Wallace, Bobby 1 2 SS
Ward, John *** 1 1 SS/2b
Wares, Buzzy 1 1 SS/2B
Weilman, Carl 1 2 S8*/R5
Weimer, Jake 1 1 S8*
Welch, Mickey *** 1 1
White, Deacon 1 1 C/RF/CF/LF/(1B)
White, Kirby 1 1 S6/R5
White, Will *** 1 1
Whitney, Jim 1 1
Whitted, Possum 1 3 OF/1B
Williams, Jimmy 1 1 2B
Willis, Vic *** 1 1 S9*
Wiltse, Hooks 1 2 S7/R4
Winter, George 1 1 S9*/R5
Yerkes, Steve 1 2 2B
Young, Cy 1 1 S9*
Young, Irv 1 1 S9*
Zimmer, Chief 1 1 C
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Re: Barts Alternative History. 1.0

PostWed Jun 12, 2024 10:35 am

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Re: Barts Alternative History. 1.0

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Re: Barts Alternative History. 1.0

PostWed Jun 12, 2024 11:33 am

Niehaus and Eddie Foster

Also, can someone remove Cutshaw and Red Smith from the list
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