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Poll ended at Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:48 pm

1. 2023 Yandy Diaz TB 1b-3b AS/MVP-6/SS AL batting champion .330/.410/.522 excellent first baseman very playable at 3rd. Would be the offensively-challenged Rays best hitter for average and a huge addition to the franchise! https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/93640/2023/1/2023
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2. 2023 Mookie Betts LAD RF/2B. Betts best year overall (.307 .408 .579), most balanced and career high in Homeruns (39). 1e0-3 in RF. Also can play 2b 2e6 https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91946/2023/1/2023
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3. 2009 Ryan Howard Phi 1b .279/.360 /.571 1b 3e15 8r 37 doubles 45 homeruns 141 rbi in game injury risk. Howard was a huge threat in the middle of those Philly lineups in the mid/late 2000’s. Only has 1 card this one is very different than that one. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/532/2009/1/2009
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4. 2023 Ronald Acuna Atlanta Braves RF 41HR .337/.416/.596 https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/93995/2023/1/2023
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5. 1967 Hoyt Wilhelm, White Sox, RHRP, 3 inning endurance. 8-3 1.31 1.034 12 saves. Career best ERA. Wilhelm was the first relief pitcher admitted to the HOF, the first pitcher to have 1000+ appearances & 50+ years later is 6th all time in games pitched. His 2 relief pitcher cards don’t do him justice as arguably the best relief pitcher of his era and Wilhelm is long overdue for a more usable relief pitcher card.
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6. 1904 Fred Glade, SLB, RHP, 18-15 (on a team that won only 65 games), 2.27 era, 2.17 fip, 1.059 whip. The "Millionaire Ballplayer" (because of his family's ownership of what would eventually become ConAgra). Supposedly the fastest pitcher of the era. Pitched à la Luis Tiant, with a 180-degree twist. 16th in career FIP. No card.
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7. 1885 Buck Ewing, NYG, C-RF-3B-CF, RH, .304/.330/.471. No card in the set like this one. HOF Catcher rated 1(-4)e16. Stealing A *4-7(17-14). Run 1-15. Bunt-B/H&R-B, 15 DO, 12 TR, 6 HR. 4.6 WAR. Only 2 gbA per side. Clutch neutral.
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8. 1898 Clark Griffith CHC SP. 1.88 ERA, 10.7 WAR. Best season of a 20 year career. Hall of Famer with one middling card currently
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9. 2023 Corey Seager TEX Left hand hitting 3R Shortstop with a 1013 OPS. Will be very cheap with a 3 injury rating and 312 rating. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/92663/2023/1/2023
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10. 1962 Ernie Banks CHN 1b played more games at 1B than he did at SS, yet all we have are SS cards for him. I'd like to nominate the 1962 Banks 1B card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/30476/1660/1/60
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11. 1917 Art Nehf Boston Braves 1.01 Whip 233 Innings is by far his best year, and a dramatic improvement over his current cards, none of which are even his top 5 years.
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12. 1971 Willie Montanez PHI OF Career high in HR (30) & RBI (99). Max 3 game injury. LH power hitter dominates righties. Huge improvement on current '77 card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/738395/1670/1/70
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13. 2016 Madison Bumgarner, SF, SP, his best season overall in terms of ERA+ (146), 2.74 ERA, 1.02 WHIP, 226 IP (career high), 251 strikeouts (career high), 54 walks, 6N for hitting. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91308/2016/1/2016
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14. 1978 Jon Matlack Tex P - Set a career best in era (2.27) and WHIP (1.12). Rangers only have 2 useable Left handed starters. Matlack spent 6 years with Texas and this card would surely get some use.
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15. 1908 Elmer Steele Boston SP/RP .83 whip
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16. 1923 Charlie Jamieson, LF, Cleveland Indians. We have 3 Jamieson seasons, but not his best! He hit .345, his OBP was .422 with 36 doubles, 12 triples, 2 homers and 18 steals, plus he is bulletproof this season!
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17. 2008 Milton Bradley TEX DH/OF. 321 .435(led league) .563 NO CARD. Volatile player's best season. If you can deal with his off-field (& on-field) behavior, it's a great card! https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/123/2008/1/2008
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18. 1983 John Denny PHI SP 19-6 with 1.16 WHIP, only 9 HR in 242 innings. CY Young Award Winner which ought to be included in ATG. Should also be slight upgrade on his only card in the set (1978 STL) and helps pitching starved Phillies EXP franchise. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/832961/1680/1/80
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19. 1994 Darrin Jackson, White Sox, RF 2(-1)e2 Bats R .312 10 51 .362 .455 .817 Career highs in BA, OPS. Near career bests in SLG & OPS+. Long time Sox broadcaster survived 1987 testicular cancer to play 12 years MLB + 2 seasons in Japan. No card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/7757/1690/1/90
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20. 1908 Ed Walsh CWS Throws-R BAL-E END-S8/R5- 1.42 ERA .860 Whip
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21. 2013 Will Venable SD Padres, White Sox new MGR, WAR 3.5, G-151, 2B-22, 3B-8, HR-22, SB-22, BA-.268, OB-.312, SLG-.487, OPS-.796, DEF- CF & RF 2(0)e4, Stealing (A), Running 1-15. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1428/2013/1/2013
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22. 1886 Hardy Richardson DTN LF-2(-2)e25 Slashline: .351/,402/.504 Stealing-AA His e-rating will get cut down. Also plays 2B/SS/3B. NO Card.
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23. 1886 Cap Anson. lots of Extra Base hits, led the league in RBI's with 147. .371 BA, .433 OBP. and a RHB with a small balance R. need an extra base hitting dead ball era first basemen that hits RHP's for small ball parks that excels in RBI's!
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24.1950 Sid Gordon BSB Bats-R BAL-2R 3b-4e16, LF-3(-1)e4 INJ Risk-15 (Righty who kills righties, how do we not already have this card in the set?)
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25. 1920 Burleigh Grimes Brooklyn RHP 23-11 2,22 ERA 1.113 WHIP. 5 SHO 2 SV. 7.1 WAR, 3rd in NL (behind Alexander & Hornsby). 303.2 IP, allowing .238 BA, .280 OBP, & .295 SLG. Also batted .306 .358 OBP, & ..432 SLG
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26. 1954 Yogi Berra. Berra won three MVP awards yet only one is represented in the set. This one has his second best on base average. His third best OPS+. His career high for RBIs. One of the greatest catchers of all time deserves one of his greatest seasons represented in the set
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27. 1983 Jody Davis, Cubs .271 24 84 .315 .480 .795 Career highs in H, HR, BA, SLG, OPS, OPS+ & TB. Long time Cubs fan favorite would be a big improvement over Randy Hundley in the Post WWII & Expansion Era player set and would be a decent platoon partner with Rick Wilkins in franchise leagues. This is Davis' best season and best card. http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/832824/1680/1/80
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28. 1990 Jody Reed, BOS, Bats-R, 2b-2e10, .289/.371/.390, Led League with 45 2b, 11 Years, No Card.
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29. 2004 Kevin Millar, Boston, 1b, .297 avg, .857 OPS, Integral part of 2004 Red Sox and continued Baseball Personality that needs a card.
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30. 2019 Stephen Strasburg, Washington, RHP, 18-6, 3.25 ERA, 1.038 WHIP, 10.8 SO9, Led NL in Wins and IP, World Series MVP. This would be a 2nd Strasburg card. Not too many Nationals options. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91350/2019/1/2019
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31. 1996 Jim Eisenreich PHI 373 PA .361/.413/.476 and an .889 OPS We only have a mediocre 1997 card for him.
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32. 2023 Austin Riley, Atlanta Braves, 3b, 37 HR, 97 RBI, .281/.345/.516, Great young Braves 3b https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/94719/2023/1/2023
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33. 2021 Corbin Burnes,CYA winner, 11-5, 2.43 ERA, .94 WHIP, https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/94248/2021/1/2021
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34. 1992 Steve Olin, Clev., the year before he tragically died. RP, 8-5, 2.34 ERA, 29 saves. Not a superstar, but a sentimental choice for a card.
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35. 2010 Kosuke Fukudome CHN rf 2(-1)e2 https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1350/2010/1/2010
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36. 1988 Kevin McReynolds-a LF 1/CF 3 with a -3 arm, great power vs LHP, good card vs RHP, stole 21 bases without being caught (*7 (20-12) for stealing). Gives the Mets a great defensive option in LF in the late innings https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/838058/1680/1/80
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37. 1952 Carl Erskine BRK RHP - 14-6 2.70 1.15 WHIP. Best card for the recently deceased Erskine.
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38. 2009 Trevor Hoffman Mil RHP 54IP 1.83 ERA .907 WHIP 37 Saves 48 K's How about another HOF for the Brew Crew! https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3850/2009/1/2009
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39. 2010 Brian Wilson, RP SFG - Currently has no card. Led the league with 48 saves. ERA 1.81 and averaged 1.25 K per inning. One of the most entertaining players of this century and should have Strat representation. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90786/2010/1/2010
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40. 2000 John VANDERWAL PIT left bat/hrs and doubles/6R/great platoon option https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3508/1700/1/120
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41. 2019 Nolan Arenado Colorado Rockies .315 Batting Average (Career High), 41 Home Runs (Ties 2nd Career High), .379 On, Base Percentage (Career High), .962 OPS (Career High), Gold Glove Award Winner, https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91754/2019/1/2019
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42. 1879 Paul Hines Providence Grays CF 1e25 (-1). The e25 should get cut down. Slashline 357/.369/.482 Stealing is an A. No Card
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43. 2022 J.T Realmuto Phillies C 1(-4)e3 T-12(pb-0) 1B 3e30 Bats-R .276/.342/.478 22 HR 84 RBI 26 doubles https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/92653/2022/1/2022
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44. 2009 Andrew Bailey Oak- good RP... https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91005/2009/1/2009
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45. 1986 Kirby Puckett CF MIN - .328 .360 .537 31 HR. 1e6-4 in CF. 1-17 runner. 2nd best card, and possibly best OVERALL card (average w/power). https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/39763/1986/1/101
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46. 1975 Doug Rau, LAD, LH SP*, 3R / 257.2 IP, 15-9, 3.07 ERA, 1.118 WHIP. Stingy with walks and XBH. Good fielding, WP, BK, etc. ratings. Hard to find 3-day-rest LHSP who are tougher on righties at a reasonable price point. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/739903/1670/1/70
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BC15NY

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24.4 Voting Now Open!

PostMon Nov 25, 2024 10:48 pm

Greetings,

Poll is up for the 24.4 new card add.

Andy's Strat Stats posted at the link below. Please take time to check them out before voting.

https://forum-365.strat-o-matic.com/com ... b#p5954018

Thanks,
Bill
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Re: 24.4 Voting Now Open!

PostThu Nov 28, 2024 4:23 pm

Amazing! No Love for the No Card Players Fred Glade, Hardy Richardson and Paul Hines to name a few.
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Re: 24.4 Voting Now Open!

PostThu Nov 28, 2024 9:24 pm

I don't get the lack of votes for Kirby Puckett. His other cards are overpriced just to knock the crap out of lefties, which you can get for cheap. This card is his most balanced, AND his career high in HR's. I would use this card in CF on a LOT of teams!
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Re: 24.4 Voting Now Open!

PostFri Nov 29, 2024 11:57 pm

FRANKMANSUETO wrote:Amazing! No Love for the No Card Players Fred Glade, Hardy Richardson and Paul Hines to name a few.


voted for Richardson and Hines fwiw...
Think there's a little bigger of a hill to climb of the players we can't see the cards of so easily.
Andy's stat breakdown definitely helps...but of course not everyone is going to spend the time
to look at it carefully- not blaming-- just stating what I 'think' is partly occurring.
Doesn't mean we won't get any of them- but maybe a bit tougher.
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Re: 24.4 Voting Now Open!

PostSat Nov 30, 2024 9:07 pm

Agreed, offering the season card in the nomination can only help the collective analysis. There are some interesting ones without cards, but I just don't visually know the card. Just a preference. Andy's very informative post helps a lot, absolute tip of the hat to him for making this available.
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Re: 24.4 Voting Now Open!

PostSat Nov 30, 2024 9:47 pm

I think there might be something to it (card access) in certain cases, but it certainly isn't hurting Art Nehf or Buck Ewing.
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Re: 24.4 Voting Now Open!

PostSun Dec 01, 2024 7:56 am

Personally I don’t care about the card itself. My tendency is to vote 1). MVP and CY seasons first as I’m of the opinion they should all be represented. 2). Players without cards. 3). Players with just one crappy card who need a good one. 4). Players who fill needs on the alt history leagues. So early (pre WWII) relievers are gold
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Re: 24.4 Voting Now Open!

PostMon Dec 02, 2024 5:24 pm

I've always been impressed that pre-1960s cards get voted in at all, considering all we have to evaluate them is mostly Andy's "Informed Choices" numbers. Kudos to the community for fighting off recency bias in this regard.

Similarly, voters are walking away from a strong sentimental favorite -- Ernie Banks. The argument that Mr. Cub lacks a card where he can play his career-primary position, 1B, is compelling. But, unfortunately, it just isn't enough to carry a really pretty mediocre card. Ernie will get in as a first baseman if and when SOM adds the entire '69 team, Jimmy Qualls, Willie Smith, and everyone else. Which they should do.

Buck Ewing is a bigger deal than you might think. He was considered the greatest catcher of all-time 100 years ago. This post gives more insight: https://forum-365.strat-o-matic.com/com ... 176aa12d92. It will be an exciting new card, unlike any other.

Would still love to have a round of voting restricted to hitters with fewer than 300 PA and SP with fewer than 200 innings. Or, if the concern is too great that this would just add too many more Mike Blowers-type platoon gods to the set, maybe we could vote in entire teams of players, such as the '69 Cubs or the 1914 "Miracle Braves."

Finally, although he is named last on the ballot, please don't ignore LHSP Doug Rau, arsenic to right-handed hitters and a foil for your opponent's cheap Mariano, Jordy, and Wock platoon strategy. You'll be Rau-warded for your vote.
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Re: 24.4 Voting Now Open!

PostMon Dec 02, 2024 6:12 pm

I would love it if they did full team adds again. I know they have at least 1 of each team in the set, but in my opinion it would be nice to have one of each team per era that the team was around for.
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Re: 24.4 Voting Now Open!

PostMon Dec 02, 2024 8:06 pm

Agreed. Would love full teams.
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