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Poll ended at Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:43 pm

1. 2021 Brandon Lowe TB 2b left-handed hitting second basemen with 39 HRs. Eight ballpark homerun chances on each side of card. Only one other lefty batting 2B in MLB history with 39 HRs (Cano). Huge add for the offensively challenged Rays. Great fit for Tropicana Field 1999. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/94319/2021/1/2021
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2. 1986 Don Sutton , Angels card. A relatively cheap backward card that would play well in lefty or small ball parks. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/41788/1986/1/101
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3. 2021 Vlad Guerrrero JR .311/.401/.601 48 hrs https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/94251/2021/1/2021
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4. 1972 Carlos May CWS helped Dick Allen put Sox in the hunt and a nice upgrade over current 1970 card .308/.405/.843 https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/73 ... 70/1/70OPS
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5. 1882 Joe Start PRO 1B. Start was 4 years old when baseball was invented and 16 when he began playing as an amateur before the Civil War. By the time the NL debuted in 1876 he was already 33. Yet despite the constantly changing rules and equipment that characterized the sport's earliest years, Start was productive for the duration of his 28-year career, with an OPS+ of 121 as a professional. 1882, his age 39 year, is his best eligible season: .329/.342/.407 for a 142 OPS+.
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6. 1990 Cal Ripken bal ss set all time record for fewest errors by a SS. over 20 doubles and 20 HR's. also bullet proof as in 0 injury. think he would be a 2/0 at SS. make a great addition to the set and he deserves having not only his but baseball's all-time career SS fielding year in the set.
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7. 2018 Adam Ottavino COL RP - 2.43 ERA/.99 WHIP. 112 Ks in 78 IP. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91711/2018/1/2018
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8. 2009 Shin-Soo Choo CLE OF - 20/20 hitter with a .300 avg. Plays all 3 OF spots (4 in CF). Provides a solid LH Bat in RF for expansion era Cleveland. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1335/2009/1/2009
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9. 2021 Salvasor Perez, KC Catcher. Lead league with 48 HR and 121 RBI. All-Star, 7th in MVP voting. And Royals need Bats! https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91618/2021/1/2021
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10. 2021 Bryce Harper PHI RF 35 HR .309/.429/.615. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91587/2021/1/2021
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11. 1940 Frankie Hayes Philadelphia A's Catcher .308 BA .389 OBP .477 SLG
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12.1930 Smead Jolley 'The Arkansas Assassin' Chicago White Sox Lefty hitting LF- RF 651 PA 616 AB 313/346/492 WITH 38 doubles 12 triples 16 home runs. Member of The Pacific Coast League Hall of Fame.
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13.2000 Edgardo Alfonzo NYM We have two years, but this is by far his best hitting year, with career highs in OBP and SLG, 967 OPS, 147 OPS+. and this would be his first 1, as the card reader shows he is 2b1e12 (the averaged mystery card rating does not show his real 2000 defensive rating). This would be the Mets' most expensive 2B https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3732/1700/1/120
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14. 1983 LaMarr Hoyt 24-10 1.02 WHIP AL Cy Young Award winner. Hoyt is currently represented by only his far inferior 1984 season, when he was the main reason why the White Sox lead the majors with 99 wins in 1983. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/835661/1680/1/80
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15. 1886 Henry Boyle SP SLM(NL) 1.76 era 1.09 whip 210 IP 2R S9*(?)
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16. 1958 Wes Covington MIL LF - Would be a huge upgrade to his current cards and a great platoon option. His splits vs rhp was .366 avg - .413 obp - .715 slg. Most likely a 9R.
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17. 1978 Ross Grimsley, LHSP, Expos 20-11 3.05 1.156 2L Career bests in W, W-L%, H9, HR9, ERA+. Near career bests in GS, IP, FIP & BB9. This was Grimsley's best season, and his card is better than his numbers. Grimsley is the only 20 game winner in Expos history! Grimsley has just one lousy other card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/734694/1670/1/70
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18. 1985 Mike Davis, RF-2 (-3) e9, CF-2. E splits, Stealing A, Run 1-16, 24 HR, 34 DO, .287/.348/.484 - No card. A solid LH hitting OF, playable at 2 positions with terrific arm. Fine platoon option at $100M+, a great everyday option at lower caps. Probably in the $3-4M salary range. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/832833/1680/1/80
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19. 1977 Gene Tenace. He led the league in walks and hbp that year. 4 on Defense, but also plays 1b and 3b. He played 893 games at catcher and 627 at first base, and finished with 46.8 WAR. The current 1973 card is probably his fourth best. The 1977 card is an onbase machine and will be oft used at catcher. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/41940/1977/5/1977
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20. 1916 Eppa Rixey , Phillies S/R LHP, 22-10 1.85 1.091 Career bests in ERA, WHIP, H9. Near career bests in Wins, HR9, SO9, SO/BB. Perhaps the only HOF SP in ATG9 without his best card. Phillies could always use more SP.
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21. 1992 Bob Tewksbury, 16-5, 233 IP, 2.16 ERA, 1.017 WHIP, 3rd in Cy Young vote, https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3288/1690/1/90
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22. 1990 Fred McGriff Toronto 1B- Toronto needs a card of the Hall of Fame first baseman, a good right handed hitting card for a platoon situation. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3384/1690/1/90
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23. 1952 Joe Black Dodgers RP- 52 Rookie of the Year, 5th black pitcher in MLB, helped define the role of a reliever. 15-4 2.15 ERA, 1.005 Whip.
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24. 1907 Ed Karger STL LHP, 15-19 (29% of team's wins), 2.04, 1.025, 121 era+, would give deadball Cards a needed LHP, no card
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25. 2000 Andruw Jones, RHB, Braves, CF 1(-3)e2 .303 36 104 .366 .541 .907 21 SBs. Career highs in HITS, BA, OBP, TB, PA and 2nd career highs for SLG, OPS & OPS+. Gold Glove winner. A true 5 tool player. In game injury only. While the current 2005 Jones has more power and slightly higher OPS, the 2000 card is more usable, as it has a far higher BA and higher OBP, which will keep the line moving and the rallies alive more than the 2005 all or nothing card.
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26. 1944 Dick Wakefield bats L DET, LF/RF .355 .464 .576 Missed 1st half due to military
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27. 1970 Ken Henderson, Giants, Bats-S BAL-2L CF/LF/RF-2(-2)e12 .294 17 88 .394 .460 .854 Career highs in R, 2B, BA, BB, OBP, SB & OPS. Near career high in H, HR, RBI, SLG & OPS+. Expansion Giants need help in CF. Has just one lousy other card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/735212/1670/1/70 ( extremely valuable switch hitting outfielder who is a 2(-2) at all three outfield positions).
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28. 1993 Gregg Jefferies, S, 1B StL., .342/.408/.485, Nice switch hitting small ball option for the EXP Cards https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3784/1690/1/90
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29. 2018 Trea Turner. SS. WAS. 271/344/416. 43 SBs. Bulletproof. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/92675/2018/1/2018
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30. 1954 Don Mueller, RF, New York Giants. Played RF with Willie in CF for 7 seasons. 342/363/444, Led the League in Hits. 12 year veteran who could use a better card.
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31. 1925 Firpo Marberry, RP, WAS, Old Senator star was taken away from us as an RP a few ATGs back (changed to a SP/RP), we can add him back as a much-needed RP for Prewar Senators. Led league in Games, Games Finished and Saves.
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32. 2021 Matt Olson, 1b, OAK. Freddie Freeman's replacement in ATL had a great final season in Oakland. 39 HR, 271/371/540. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/93028/2021/1/2021
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33. 1957 Bob Boyd, 1b, BAL, Another player who used up his best seasons in the Negro Leagues, but put up some nice numbers when he came to the Orioles. Nicknamed "Rope" for his ubiquitous line drives. 318/388/408
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34. 1992 Andy Van Slyke PIT 686 PA's 199 hits 45 DBLS 12 Trple 14 HR .324 BA .381 OPS .505 Slg https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/42357/1690/1/90
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35. Dave Orr 1885: .342/.358/.543 / 202 OPS+
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36. Rickey Romero SP 2010 Toronto Blue Jays Nice addition to the Jays starters. NO Card https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91088/2010/1/2010
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37. 1904 Frank Owen, White Sox RHSP 21-15 1.94 0.965 Career bests in ERA, WHIP, H9, HR9, BB9. Near career bests in Wins, SO/BB. No card.
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38. 1982 Toby Harrah, Indians 3B 3e13 .304 25 78 .398 .490 .879 17 SB Career highs in BA, SLG, DO, OPS & OPS+. 2nd career high in HR. Bulletproof! http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/34980/1982/2/1982
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39. 1939 Terry Moore STL Bats-R BAL-E CF/LF/RF-1(0)e2 INJ Risk-15
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40. 1889 Harry Stovey, Outfielder Philadelphia AA, 556 AB, 77 BB, 3 game injury risk. Lead league with 152 runs, 19 HR, 119 RBI, .525 SLG, 292 TB.
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41. 1880 George Gore CF CHC. Lefty's career year out of 14. Led the league in AVG, OBP, and SLG - .360/.399/.463, good for a 185 OPS+.
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42. 1997 Denny Neagle ATL SP(L) 2R / 20-5 2.97 1.08 / 3rd in Cy Young . Would give ATL(exp) franchise another LH option besides Glavine or Avery. NO CARD in set. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3811/1690/1/90
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43. 1895 Pink Hawley Pitt SP Throws Right, Bats Left 31-22 3.18 4 SHO 1 SV. Pitching WAR 10.0 (2nd to Cy Young) Also batted .308 5 HR Slugged .497. (+ 1.0 WAR as a Hitter) 1890's Ohtani/Ruth!
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44. 1922 Carson Bigbee PIT LF-1/CF-1/RF-1 .350/.405/.471 Stealing-A
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45. 1933 Jimmie Foxx PHA 1B .356/.449/.703 48 HR 163 RBI MVP
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46. 1983 Lloyd Moseby. 31 doubles, 18 homers, 27 stolen bases .315/.376/.499. 1983 was the best year for Moseby and would be an improvement over his 2 current ATG cards. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/838552/1680/1/80
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47. 1963 Albie Pearson, .304 BA, .402 OBP, 2's across the OF. Much-needed budget-priced LH CF with speed and glove. Starting AL CF in '63 ASG. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/39358/1660/1/60
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48. 1963 Elston Howard, C. AL MVP. .287/.342/.528. 5 errors and 8 passed balls in 132 games for AL champions. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/35630/1660/1/60
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49. 1976 Thurman Munson, C, NYY. AL MVP that year. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/738637/1670/1/70
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50. 2019 Juan Soto LF Washington nationals. .282 / .401 /.548 34 hrs https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/94202/2019/1/2019
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22.4 Voting Now Open!

PostSun Dec 11, 2022 1:43 pm

Greetings,

Poll is up for the 22.4 new card add.

Andy's Strat Stats posted at the link below. Please take time to check them out before voting.

viewtopic.php?f=25&p=5870132&sid=0562a75d10ec8bba541ec0a761891311#p5870132

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Re: 22.4 Voting Now Open!

PostSun Dec 11, 2022 2:33 pm

Useful info: the following already have multiple cards ...
Don Sutton 5
Elston Howard, Thurman Munson, Fred McGriff 4
Jimmie Foxx, Toby Harrah, Terry Moore 3
Edgardo Alfonzo, Llyod Moseby, Andy Van Slyke, Wes Covington 2
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Re: 22.4 Voting Now Open!

PostSun Dec 11, 2022 3:44 pm

killebrew3 wrote:Useful info: the following already have multiple cards ...
Don Sutton 5
Elston Howard, Thurman Munson, Fred McGriff 4
Jimmie Foxx, Toby Harrah, Terry Moore 3
Edgardo Alfonzo, Llyod Moseby, Andy Van Slyke, Wes Covington 2


Lloyd Moseby and Wes Covington would definitely be nice upgrades.
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Re: 22.4 Voting Now Open!

PostMon Dec 12, 2022 8:22 pm

Where is the Carson Bigbee love? It gives the Pittsburgh-PRE a nice top the the lineup player. GREAT D in all outfiled positions and a A Stealer.
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Re: 22.4 Voting Now Open!

PostMon Dec 12, 2022 9:46 pm

I wonder if people consider probable pricing? I like that Salasor Perez card, but would you pay over 6 bucks for that on base pct?

(As I've said before, we all have different agendas. But you can tell who the High cap players and franchise players are ;) )
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Re: 22.4 Voting Now Open!

PostTue Dec 13, 2022 4:42 am

...Ed Karger...arguably the second or third best starting pitcher on the list...lefty...no card...in another thread, Andy estimates his possible pricing in the low 8 mil...

So why is no one voting for him??!!!...(relatively speaking of course...;-)...)

...bill
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Re: 22.4 Voting Now Open!

PostTue Dec 13, 2022 6:41 am

Karger didn't have much of a career, that was his only good year.

Sal Perez meanwhile has had an outstanding career and currently has only one card for one of his worst years, and 2021 was his career year (apart from 2020 which is ineligible).

Personally I don't really anticipate pricing when voting. Sometimes guys will be overpriced and sometimes underpriced and I haven't really noticed a pattern as to which guys end up in which basket. And since I don't play franchise I'm mostly voting for guys who don't have a card or guys like Perez who would receive an upgrade from the nominated card.
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Re: 22.4 Voting Now Open!

PostTue Dec 13, 2022 9:25 am

For me. I’m of the opinion that every MVP and CY season should be represented (I know not everyone agrees) so that leads my voting pattern.
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Re: 22.4 Voting Now Open!

PostTue Dec 13, 2022 10:19 am

Some of the players' seasons look good from a cursory glance, but don't translate well to ATG.

My never-ending commercial to go LOOK AT THE ACTUAL STATS BEFORE VOTING.
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Re: 22.4 Voting Now Open!

PostWed Dec 14, 2022 11:59 am

How about some love for Brandon Lowe? Rays need more hitters and Lowe gives ATG another option as a slugging left-handed hitting second basemen.

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