"Hiding" pitchers in the rotation -- can it work?

"Hiding" pitchers in the rotation -- can it work?

Postby nels52 » Sat Feb 04, 2006 3:09 pm

This topic sort of evolved in another post and I would like to find out more about it. Some might say it has to do with “gaming the game”, but I would say it has more to do with trying to figure out how to keep HAL doing things (such as put in the wrong players) that a prudent manager would never do in “real” baseball or a live SOM game.

I’m interested to find out what mgrs.’ experience might be with the practice of “hiding” starters in their rotation. What has been proposed is to take two .5M guys who are qualified to start AND relieve and put them in the regular rotation. Then, plug better starters on a game-by-game basis. [i:6604828fe1](The reason two .5M strictly starting pitchers aren’t used in this scenario is because there are none available in the FA pool – just SP/RP’s.)[/i:6604828fe1]

Apparently some folks think that by jiggling the rotation on a game-by-game basis like this these dual-purpose cheap pitchers will wind up getting used very little, if at all – that’s the idea. [b:6604828fe1]For all I know this could be a very bad idea.[/b:6604828fe1]

Who has tried this and with what degree of success? Thanks.
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Postby The Last Druid » Sat Feb 04, 2006 3:21 pm

It works so long as you don't forget to update the per game starters for each series.
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Postby egvrich » Sat Feb 04, 2006 3:23 pm

Yes, it does work, for the most part. Extra inning games, pinch hitters, pinch runners and the like can screw it up sometimes but for the most part, you can channel your innings to the right places.

This team just finished last night:

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/atg2/team/team_other.html?user_id=93507

And, I'm not an expert on it, from what I hear, it works best if you only set your per game starters for the upcoming series and leave the other series blank ... too much work for me, I just set all my teams a week at a time.
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Postby NEILKAHN » Sat Feb 04, 2006 7:35 pm

Two 30 game winners!!! SWEEEEET! I am surprised by how many innings the bums got, anyway. It looks to me like your team played about three hundred games.
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Postby Valen » Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:47 pm

Look closer muttdoc. Those 30 wins were from real life stats.
But simulated stats are very impressive.
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Postby Leo / loob » Sat Feb 04, 2006 9:04 pm

This team took it to the extreme, and took it all the way to the bank!

*Disclaimer* - 100 million league

Check out the innings pitched by the pullpen in the post season. Oh, BTW, the innings pitched by the bullpen during the regular season is not shabby either.

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/atg2/playoffs/team_other.html?user_id=36609&stats=sim
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Postby UrbanShockers » Sat Feb 04, 2006 9:08 pm

[quote:67710bd6a9="EGVRICH"]
And, I'm not an expert on it, from what I hear, it works best if you only set your per game starters for the upcoming series and leave the other series blank ...[/quote:67710bd6a9]

Interesting, I'd never heard that. . . Anyone have any thoughts as to whether this is true, or why?
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Postby egvrich » Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:03 pm

I believe PBTR pulled off a similar venture and let us all in on the secret a while back, then again maybe I'm wrong.
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Postby Simon31 » Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:36 am

Nope! Your right. I was in that league with him.
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Postby nels52 » Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:33 pm

OK, I guess I'll give it a try. Here's my "final" roster -- unless some guys pop up on the FA wire that I simply can't pass up:

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/atg2/team/team_other.html?user_id=105232

Thanks for all the input.
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