OVER priced OVER rated

Santana

Postby LoopsandRolls » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:36 am

So far in a live draft league:

He is 3 and 0 with a 3.05 ERA and a WHIP of 1.18

The hitting is always a bit better in a live draft league
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Postby childsmwc » Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:01 pm

Dustin Pedroia is not overpriced, especially when you put him in a pitchers environment. That being said he is not the easiest player for most people to pay for and the answer to that is simple, Pedroia in his best seasons will probably be lucky to crack the top 25 offensive players in most leagues.

The value comes when you couple a good offensive card with the best defensive card at the second most important defensive position.

In AT&T park Pedroia is worth every penny and you should never have dropped him/traded him away for Utley in that park. Was he off to a terrible start, definitely, but the card doesn't change, so you just had some bad luck and should have ridden it out. In that park Pedroia should easily hit .300. He might not duplicate his card, but there isn't a better fitting park for Pedroia you just had extremely bad luck.

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Postby childsmwc » Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:09 pm

The other thing you have to look at is league context. The league in question has a league average of .265/.335/.412 with an average team ERA of 4.25. So the league as a whole is playing with tougher pitchers and in pitchers parks, which will bring down everyones stats.

Now that still doesn't nearly explain how poorly Pedroia did for you, but in that environment I don't think I would expect more than a .280/.340/.440 type of line from Pedroia.

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Postby modmark46 » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:21 pm

Almost halfway through the season (75 games), playing in Kaufman Stadium. Pedroia is hitting .301/.342/.436. 20 Doubles, 2 Triples, 6 HRs. He also has 13 steals without being caught. On the odd side, he already has 4 errors, as an e6. I am happy with him so far, and don't feel I have overpaid.
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Postby LMBombers » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:55 pm

[quote:6243de6d7a="modmark47"]Almost halfway through the season (75 games), On the odd side, he already has 4 errors, as an e6. [/quote:6243de6d7a]

Is that really odd? It is only 1 more error than you would expect at the halfway point.
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Postby modmark46 » Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:12 pm

Well, 6 more games and it will be halfway. But yeah, I guess it's not THAT far off the norm. Just FELT like a lot to me, I guess. :)
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Postby Delbird » Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:37 pm

I have Pedroia in a 'real' teams them league (so he's in Fenway) and he's doing real well -

75G .327/.379/.539 (.918 OPS), 24 2B, 14 HR, 41 RBI's. 8 SB (4 CS), and only 3 errors. Much more power than I would have expected. Batting him lead off against RHP, second against LHP.
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Postby scorehouse » Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:27 pm

my petro is doing almost identical to above only 3 errors thru 317abs. but, just 2 hrs in chase and only 37 rbis. he's on the worst of my initial 5 2008 teams.
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Postby The Turtle » Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:55 pm

I just traded Holiday off of one of my teams. I thought he was a great deal for the price, until 1/3 way through the season he had a .289 slg pct and a .254 OBP
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Postby LMBombers » Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:03 am

Here is Holliday in Fenway where he should not do as well as a power park. No complaints here. :)

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=185512
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