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[macnole]

not appropriate. Unless the dead or the weak are enemies who tried/are trying to kill you, which is not the case. They are fellow Americans. The fact that one has to ask probably should show the right answer.

However, I dont agree that this is something akin to how we operate as a society. The fact we have a government that has seen its individual lawmakers' income grow by 15% while its "subjects" and the wealthiest elite have had a different outcome over the same period, suggests something is out of balance with this obvious monarchy. Elected officials get to insider trade without fear of jail and they dont even have to pay for traffic tickets. Serving in govt is pretty damn lucrative. The Occupy movmt should be at E Capitol St and Pennsylvania Ave...not Wall St. Well, that and stop being about those who WANT it all and start being about those who GIVE their all. But when you are the 10% unenployed,m you dont get that. But thats another story. Hrrmph.

We have worse problems but we dont need to add to it.

[motherscratcher]

[quote:b0eb76220b="nexrad"]
Last year my son was running in the USCAA (small-college) national championships in New Hampshire. Along the way, he stumbled and fell, injuring himself. [b:b0eb76220b]Two "good samaritan" runners from other schools stopped to help him up and walked with him for about 400 meters before continuing on. [/b:b0eb76220b]It's good there are coaches and runners out there that place a higher value on compassion, kindness and the true meaning of sportsmanship than winning at all costs.[/quote:b0eb76220b]

That's great that they did that. I have a feeling that good sportsmanship far outweighs bad sportsmanship across the board. Of course, we don't often hear about the good variety.

Do you honestly think that, in the same situation, those runners would have acted differently based on what the back of one of their Tee shirts said?

I wrestled (very averagely) in high school. We, as well as other teams, had a lot of different shirts with all manner of tough guy slogans. Some clever, most not, all probably a little goofy or over-the-top to outside observers. It didn't change our nature, or our upbringing, or our preclusion to common decency and sportsmanship.

Do we really think that these kids are going to put on a shirt with a goofy little slogan and then just hop over a dead kid laying in their path and continue running? Or push down a slower kid in front them because of some new adopted slogan that is essentially the same thing as the "Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The Way" shirts we've seen for the last 2 decades?

If kids actually do those things on a CC course I propose there are a lot more problems with them than some tee shirt slogan.

And talking of firing a guy over it? In 2011 with a crappy economy and unemployment at a pretty high level? I can't believe how casually we sit back on our computers and cheer for the elimination of another person's job, as if that's some small thing.

If the slogan is really that bad, isn't it more reasonable for the athletic director to say "Hey, we don't like those shirts. We think They're inappropriate. Lose 'em please."?

When did everyone turn into Francis from Stripes?

[Treyomo]

I don't think it's that big of a deal, but that said, it doesn't pass the sniff test. It speaks of the same mentality that leads little league parents to brawl and coaches of 3rd grade basketball coaches to scream obscenities at volunteer referees. There's a thousand other quotes/phrases out there that can describe passion and aggresiveness without stealing a line from a metal band, aren't there?

Should the coach be fired? No. But the AD should pull the coach aside and ask, "Really?"

[The Last Druid]

Firing the coach isn't the same as firing the teacher who is probably the coach. So the guy I want fired is gonna lose a stipend of what was about 1.5K back in the 70's, not sure what coaches get today as stipends. I wouldn't be thrilled about keeping him as a teacher but don't think there is just cause for termination from that position. So I'm not looking to deprive someone of his livelihood. But I definitely don't want this guy coaching my kids if that is his mentality. The image I have in mind, is kind of like the guy who ran the dojo in the Karate Kid, and I don't mean Miaggi!

[216 Stitches]

[quote:a038156ddf="hotcorner4444"] I came across [u:a038156ddf][i:a038156ddf][b:a038156ddf]parents [/b:a038156ddf][/i:a038156ddf][/u:a038156ddf]wearing sweatshirts with the following slogan: "Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead."
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If anyone should be fired, I thinks its the parents. **

** thats a joke, btw. :D :shock: :oops:

If you do get the coach fired, be sure to hurdle over him.

[macnole]

[quote:5d1b231d53="River Field View"][quote:5d1b231d53="hotcorner4444"] I came across [u:5d1b231d53][i:5d1b231d53][b:5d1b231d53]parents [/b:5d1b231d53][/i:5d1b231d53][/u:5d1b231d53]wearing sweatshirts with the following slogan: "Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead."
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If anyone should be fired, I thinks its the parents. **

** thats a joke, btw. :D :shock: :oops:

If you do get the coach fired, be sure to hurdle over him.[/quote:5d1b231d53]

:lol:

No doubt the parents are usually the worst. My daughter played HS tennis #1 singles as an 8th grader and dint get kind treatment from opposing parnets whose kids would lose.

[motherscratcher]

^^^But that's just the point. If some kids are bad sports, or arrogant, or whatever...it's more likely the parents are to blame way more than any dumb Tee shirt or slogan.

[macnole]

more likely yes, but the shirt being peddled by adults for booster club funds and being paraded by parents and teens as an organizational "vision" does not exactly help the cause of parents to be "less likely" of being the problem.

cant have that one both ways.

[Stormcrow2012]

[quote:9f9d325ad4]The image I have in mind, is kind of like the guy who ran the dojo in the Karate Kid, and I don't mean Miaggi! [/quote:9f9d325ad4]


Good one, I agree!

[motherscratcher]

[quote:25629e1201="Stormcrow2012"][quote:25629e1201]The image I have in mind, is kind of like the guy who ran the dojo in the Karate Kid, and I don't mean Miaggi! [/quote:25629e1201]


Good one, I agree![/quote:25629e1201]

Honest to God, if you guys really think that the cross country coach is probably like John Kreese because of some slogan on a tee shirt...you should watch less TV or something.