2011 Hall of Shame Under-Performers

[pikesvilleal]

[quote:887a1752c6="sonofelch"]This set has too many under performers and over performers. I have 9 teams so far. In many of them there are entire teams that over perform. I have one where the entire team is under performing in road games only.

My most recent team is 3-12. Kershaw 4.68 ERA and Fister are combined 1-4. Giambi .157 1 HR. Beltre .143 0 HR. Morse .194 2 HR. I've also had a few 4 million plus relievers who have blown nearly as many games as they save.

FYI three of my leagues regular seasons are finished. One has the top 2 pitching staffs in the finals. One has 2 of the top 3 pitching staffs in the finals. And one has 3 of the top 4 hitting teams starting the semi finals.

Not sure that's going to be any help in picking my next team unless I can figure out who the over performers will be :)[/quote:887a1752c6]

$80M league. Giambi my DH has 28Hrs in 54 games.

[rossarino]

Update. More evidence of over performing and under performing. Check out this team. The pitching staff has allowed 6 HR's. Five by one guy who gave up 11 the entire real season.

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=384170

And my team. My staff has allowed 21 HR's. He's hit 14. I've hit 6 with Giambi, Beltre, Morse, and Avila in my lineup. I know it's a small sample size but just saying!

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=386568

[artie4121]

Veto Votto.

.213 .335 .366 .700

216 AB 8 Hrs 26 RBIs

I can barely stand the stink.

[AeroDave10]

[quote:fe6dfdf160="pczarnecki"]My first team of the 2011 set, as of 150 games played, Miguel Cabrera has 26 doubles. He hit 48 in reality.

I can understand the effect that stadium choice can have on HRs but doubles?[/quote:fe6dfdf160]

This trend seems to happen a lot in online SOM. People will hit the same or a greater number of HRs than their card, but the same or fewer doubles. It's kind of like the bpHR effect is in lieu of the ability to hit doubles rather than in addition to.

A similar effect is seen with BB/K ratio. There are almost always more Ks than the card and less BBs than the card, though that may be a bit more expected.

[pikesvilleal]

[quote:a7e01591fd="sonofelch"]Update. More evidence of over performing and under performing. Check out this team. The pitching staff has allowed 6 HR's. Five by one guy who gave up 11 the entire real season.

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=384170

And my team. My staff has allowed 21 HR's. He's hit 14. I've hit 6 with Giambi, Beltre, Morse, and Avila in my lineup. I know it's a small sample size but just saying!

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=386568[/quote:a7e01591fd]

I'm also seeing the middle priced starters out performing the upper tier.
Nice to see Craig Allen is a bum for someone else too. Had to drop him after 54 games.

[keyzick]

Ian Kinsler....barely over the Mendoza line on 3 different teams...random check of him on other teams seems to be the same story.

What a waste of $$$s for a 30-30 guy

[dharmabums]

I have him on several teams, and they are all about the same: low .200s for BA, maybe gets to .300 OBP, usually 20+/20+ for HRs/SBs. Not a good mix, but it seems to be pretty typical of a lot of players.

McCutchen is another one: under .200 for BA, under .300 for OBP, maybe 15+/20+ for HRs/SBs.

[coyote303]

It's fun to point out some of our worst underperformers; I did so myself earlier in this thread.

However, all of us have to temper our disappointments with the following:

1. Players don't hit evenly throughout the year. In SOM and RL MLB, streaks and slumps are part of the game.

2. In all but $60 million leagues, [b:c31ab486ed]each player (hitter or pitcher) should expect to have a subpar year.[/b:c31ab486ed] That's because the hitting and pitching in the league are better than the Major League average. It is statistically impossible for everyone, on average, to duplicate their stats. So a when a player has a truly subpar year to what is expected, it can really look bad.

3. Ballparks, especially your own, play a significant role.

[geekor]

we all know that, but every season, every, there are some cards that seem to over-perform and some that under-perform.

This is something that changes with each season, and it's fun to talk about them.

[coyote303]

[quote:2b7bb9e2b5="geekor"]we all know that, but every season, every, there are some cards that seem to over-perform and some that under-perform.

This is something that changes with each season, and [b:2b7bb9e2b5]it's fun to talk about them.[/b:2b7bb9e2b5][/quote:2b7bb9e2b5]

Agree! This is a fun thread.

But I reserve the right to chuckle when someone points out how horrible someone is doing after 20 or 30 games!