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Postby cirills » Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:30 pm

Did you check the most CURRENT one???
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Postby Detroit-Tigers » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:48 am

***UPDATE***



TWO Proposals are on the table to be voted on folks.

PROPOSAL # 1 -- WE EXPAND the maximum number of picks a team may make in the mid-season Supplemental Draft from the current maximum of 3 to a new max of FIVE picks. Remember that 5 players will have to be released PRIOR to the draft and will be available as well. IMO, this slight expansion will give the poorer teams from the first half (who will be drafting earlier in a NON-Serpentine Draft) more chances at improving the following year.

Current vote:

Ayes: 4
nays: 5



PROPOSAL # 2 -- We REDUCE the minimum numbers of players a team has to drop BEFORE the following year's Free Agent Draft from the current minimum of 10 to a new minimum of FIVE. Kaviksdad said it best: Quote:
I don't want to be forced to drop players that I've accumulated over a number of drafts and are finally reaching their potential in order to meet a roster requirement that could possibly keep a bad team from becoming a powerhouse.

After all, that is the incentive for ALL of us, no???

Current vote:

Ayes: 4
Nays: 2
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Postby cirills » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:57 am

Um, (as per usual) you are slightly off DT -- Propsal # 2 has already passed. :roll:

Please let me get the CORRECT updated tally for you.
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Postby cirills » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:57 am

[u:4b6cd9f7c3][b:4b6cd9f7c3]***UPDATE***[/b:4b6cd9f7c3][/u:4b6cd9f7c3]



[b:4b6cd9f7c3]TWO Proposals are on the table to be voted on folks.[/b:4b6cd9f7c3]

[size=15:4b6cd9f7c3][u:4b6cd9f7c3][b:4b6cd9f7c3]PROPOSAL # 1[/b:4b6cd9f7c3][/u:4b6cd9f7c3][/size:4b6cd9f7c3] -- [b:4b6cd9f7c3]WE EXPAND the maximum number of picks a team may make in the mid-season Supplemental Draft from the current maximum of 3 to a new max of FIVE picks.[/b:4b6cd9f7c3] Remember that 5 players will have to be released PRIOR to the draft and will be available as well. IMO, this slight expansion will give the poorer teams from the first half (who will be drafting earlier in a NON-Serpentine Draft) more chances at improving the following year.

Current vote:

[b:4b6cd9f7c3]Ayes: 4
Nays: 6

[i:4b6cd9f7c3]Left: 2 (Ineluki and Bigmahon) Best possible is a 6/6 tie, so ...[/i:4b6cd9f7c3][/b:4b6cd9f7c3]

[size=15:4b6cd9f7c3][b:4b6cd9f7c3]PROPOSAL # 1 [i:4b6cd9f7c3]DOS NOT PASS[/i:4b6cd9f7c3]!!![/size:4b6cd9f7c3] [/b:4b6cd9f7c3]The maximum number of pickups allowed in the Supplemental Draft will remain at [i:4b6cd9f7c3]THREE[/i:4b6cd9f7c3][/b].



[size=15:4b6cd9f7c3][u:4b6cd9f7c3][b:4b6cd9f7c3]PROPOSAL # 2[/b:4b6cd9f7c3][/u:4b6cd9f7c3][/size:4b6cd9f7c3] -- [b:4b6cd9f7c3]We REDUCE the minimum numbers of players a team has to drop BEFORE the following year's Free Agent Draft from the current minimum of 10 to a new minimum of FIVE. [i:4b6cd9f7c3]Kaviksdad[/i:4b6cd9f7c3] said it best:[/b:4b6cd9f7c3] [quote:4b6cd9f7c3]I don't want to be forced to drop players that I've accumulated over a number of drafts and are finally reaching their potential in order to meet a roster requirement that could possibly keep a bad team from becoming a powerhouse.[/quote:4b6cd9f7c3]
After all, that is the incentive for ALL of us, no???

Current vote:

[b:4b6cd9f7c3]Ayes: 8
Nays: 2

[i:4b6cd9f7c3]Left: 2[/i:4b6cd9f7c3][/b:4b6cd9f7c3]

[size=15:4b6cd9f7c3][b:4b6cd9f7c3]PROPOSAL # 2 [i:4b6cd9f7c3]PASSES[/i:4b6cd9f7c3]!!![/size:4b6cd9f7c3] [/b:4b6cd9f7c3]Starting with next year's FA Draft, [b:4b6cd9f7c3]the minimum number of forced releases is now [i:4b6cd9f7c3]FIVE[/i:4b6cd9f7c3][/b:4b6cd9f7c3].

Thanks for you participation gang, as I try to make this the best it can be.

Stay tuned for two more proposals concerning our favorite friend Divisions, and ballparks.

Sandy
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the rosters were off

Postby AFDickie » Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:04 am

I didn't notice the Fultz tade...wilkerson update either.
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Postby cirills » Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:11 am

No they are correct -- all except for the LAST update where somehow I used an older version. :oops: Will post newly revised ones later, sorry.

I KNEW I had updated them all, I need to delete my old excel files is all. Thanks for keeping track.
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Postby cirills » Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:24 am

Ok ... they should be correct now. Sorry for the confusion. :? :oops:
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Postby Ninersphan » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:39 am

Tip of the hat to DT's petco Tigers team, 11 staright series they've won, I'm trying to keep pace but he's got tyhe accelerater mashed and I think has a few more horses than I do, especailly in the Starting pitching department.
Anything any of the rest of you can do to slow him down would sure be apprecaited by my Jaguars.
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Postby Detroit-Tigers » Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:35 pm

I wasn't going to say anything but, shhhh. My worst pitcher ERA < the second best team's ERA.
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Postby cirills » Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:04 pm

Ok guys -- I know I am going to cause a couple of you to groan, BUT I have two more proposals to put to you. I PROMISE though, that barring any odd occurances, that THESE will be the LAST.

I am simply trying to make this the best it can be. The first one revisits the discussion that almost caused us a significant delay at the start -- DIVISIONAL ALIGNMENT. I have been thinking about this a lot and think I have come up with a good solution. Special Thanks to KD and Mike J as it were their comments especially that led to this first proposal.


[b:42adc57cc9][size=15:42adc57cc9]PROPOSAL # 1[/size:42adc57cc9][/b:42adc57cc9] -- We change the Divisional Alignment structure so that Divisions will not be aligned via this English Premiere Soccer League Rotaion method (sorry FD :oops: ). Instead we adopt the following:

[b:42adc57cc9]Heading INTO the start of a NEW YEAR -- the Divisions (AND the FREE AGENT DRAFT ORDER) will be in order of the previous year's total combined standings.[/b:42adc57cc9] Any ties will be broken by; 1. Head to Head results and if need be; 2. Greatest positive RS-RA differential. The league will be formed such that the EAST will be teams 1-4, the CENTRAL 5-8 and the WEST 9-12.

[b:42adc57cc9]After our first season of play in that given year, the Divisions will be realigned (AND the ORDER OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL DRAFT) based on the Win/Loss pct. of that season with the same tie-breaking procedures. [/b:42adc57cc9]

***NOTE*** -- This year's (really last year's) Supplemental Draft was based on our Order of Merit Standings (where we give bonuses for playoff and World Series Appearances) but to make it simple and fair (since luck plays a big portion in playoffs), we will leave those bonuses JUST for the Order of Merit from now on and base our Draft Orders strictly on Win/Loss pcts.

[b:42adc57cc9]After the Second Season is completed the following year's FIRST SEASON DIVISONS (and the FA Draft Order) will be determined by the COMBINED winning pcts. of BOTH seasons [/b:42adc57cc9](again with the top four teams being in the EAST and the bottom 4 teams being in the WEST).

It was KD that said adopting a system like this would eliminate confusion and personally I like it because I think it gives everyone a better chance to compete at the same level. If you consistently do well you will be at the top, but if you can't hang there you go back down.

*** Please note that it will be our Order of Merit ONLY in which the special post-season bonuses will be added in to keep track of our overall points leader. ***

Let me know what y'all think and please vote:


Ayes: 1 (Sandy)
Nays: 0

Remaining: 11 (Qk/Cubit, Stoney, FD, KD, NP, AFD, Ineluki, Bubba, Hawk, Big, and D-T)




[b:42adc57cc9][size=15:42adc57cc9]PROPOSAL # 2[/size:42adc57cc9][/b:42adc57cc9] -- This has to do with our [b:42adc57cc9]Chosen Parks[/b:42adc57cc9]. Our current charter calls for us to be committed to our parks for the first three YEARS of our existence.

However, as it is now in QK's Keeper League, [b:42adc57cc9]I am proposing that we adopt the similar rule of allowing the choice of a different park for each SEASON we play. [/b:42adc57cc9]

My reason for this is as follows. While it IS the intent of this league to recreate as close as possible what it's like to be the GM of your own team -- we have to acknowledge that in Real Baseball -- the park results do NOT change as liberally as they do here in SOM unless they; 1) drastically altear those dimensions or 2) drastically alter the makeup of their team (ie; going with more LH or RH's depending on the players they have coming up). While they have the understanding of what they are doing we are then sort of trapped by their results. So that nice LH park we have has suddenly become neutral or in fact now favors RH's. Being "stuck" with that for 3 years doesn't seem fair. Also, by being allowed to change parks after each season, an owner whose team has NOT faired well gets a change to see how his team will perform under a different set of conditions. If you LIKE your current stadium then by all means you may stay, [b:42adc57cc9]but I am proposing that if you WANT to leave then you may choose to so, via (like the Drafts) the inverse order of the win/loss pcts.[/b:42adc57cc9]
Again, feel free to share your thought and please vote:


Ayes: 1 (Sandy)
Nays: 0

Remaining: 11 (Qk/Cubit, Stoney, FD, KD, NP, AFD, Ineluki, Bubba, Hawk, Big, and D-T)


If you have made it this far then you are TRULY committed and think that I should be committed (to an institution). You have my sincere thanks.
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