Individual player draft
1. buster j ratt (Indians) -Jimmy Piersall
2. Pjatscfy (Twins) - Johnny Klippstein
3. Cubs48 (A's)
4. 2cityfan (Red Sox )
5. jpgavin (Cardinals)
6. errormagnate (Giants)
7. AeroDave (Pirates)
8. FAaron (White Sox)
9. andycummings (Reds)
10. rosenthm (Braves)
11. novie (Yankees)
12. majicmg (Cubs)
ATG IV 16 event Franchise League
by novie » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:26 pm
All is good.
Let me state now about season 7.
We need to really look at the rules when considering what the cap is... quite frankly this season makes me nauseated to even consider. An 80m cap with these rules competey limits the ability to have any creativity in developing a team. I can't speak for what others are looking at, but unless I am wiling to have 4 sub $3m hitters in my lineup, I have NO flexibility at all. Unless I am missing something, I am FORCED to use a 12M CF and a 5+M one sided, slow HR adjustment 3B in a small ball park. Sure doesn't leave a whole lot of options when over 21% of your salary is spent on two players that don't fit your or the rest of the leagues ballparks.
And the LIVE draft portion is a joke.... you could virtually skip me the entire time and it wouldn't have much of an affect on my team.
Having all 1's defensively, 500AB/200IP live draft requirement, plus teams can limit your options by protecting 10 players, pitchers parks... all fine ON THEIR OWN MERITS.... combined together with an 80M cap and it it is somewhat overbearing.
Almost forgot, there may be teams that can't meet the first rule requirements... very bad! If there are any teams that have to start a 2 on defense, then eveyone should be allowed to do the same.
[quote:16a2eafd69]...but mostly this forces a defense, speed, and pitching approach. That's why I called it the "Small Ball" theme league. I'm sure this will backfire and my team will still be average to below average, but that was my theory behind this theme. It wasn't a totally blind strategy.
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The defense is mandatory... I will have very little speed and no pitching in my forced approach.
Creativity and choice is good, this set of rules/cap is not. I guess spending $25 and being told who my roster will be, by and large, leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Let me state now about season 7.
We need to really look at the rules when considering what the cap is... quite frankly this season makes me nauseated to even consider. An 80m cap with these rules competey limits the ability to have any creativity in developing a team. I can't speak for what others are looking at, but unless I am wiling to have 4 sub $3m hitters in my lineup, I have NO flexibility at all. Unless I am missing something, I am FORCED to use a 12M CF and a 5+M one sided, slow HR adjustment 3B in a small ball park. Sure doesn't leave a whole lot of options when over 21% of your salary is spent on two players that don't fit your or the rest of the leagues ballparks.
And the LIVE draft portion is a joke.... you could virtually skip me the entire time and it wouldn't have much of an affect on my team.
Having all 1's defensively, 500AB/200IP live draft requirement, plus teams can limit your options by protecting 10 players, pitchers parks... all fine ON THEIR OWN MERITS.... combined together with an 80M cap and it it is somewhat overbearing.
Almost forgot, there may be teams that can't meet the first rule requirements... very bad! If there are any teams that have to start a 2 on defense, then eveyone should be allowed to do the same.
[quote:16a2eafd69]...but mostly this forces a defense, speed, and pitching approach. That's why I called it the "Small Ball" theme league. I'm sure this will backfire and my team will still be average to below average, but that was my theory behind this theme. It wasn't a totally blind strategy.
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The defense is mandatory... I will have very little speed and no pitching in my forced approach.
Creativity and choice is good, this set of rules/cap is not. I guess spending $25 and being told who my roster will be, by and large, leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Last edited by novie on Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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by AeroDave10 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:50 pm
[quote:94b4202125="Novie"]
An 80m cap with these rules competey limits the ability to have any creativity in developing a team. I can't speak for what others are looking at, but unless I am wiling to have 4 sub $3m hitters in my lineup, I have NO flexibility at all. And the LIVE draft portion is a joke.... you could virtually skip me the entire time and it wouldn't have much of an affect on my team.
Having all 1's defensively, 500AB/200IP live draft requirement, plus teams can limit your options by protecting 10 players... all fine ON THEIR OWN MERITS.... combined together with an 80M cap and it seems somewhat overbearing.
[/quote:94b4202125]
I think some feel that the $60M league we had was tough on them, as is the $125M team, or the OPS limit rule. I personally thought the $60M league was much tougher, especially having to have 10 guys from one carded roster, but that was the rule. I'm pretty sure that if you were a team that wasn't stockpiled with high-priced talent that generally played their entire careers with same team (i.e. the Yankees) this argument would not be quite as vehement.
An 80m cap with these rules competey limits the ability to have any creativity in developing a team. I can't speak for what others are looking at, but unless I am wiling to have 4 sub $3m hitters in my lineup, I have NO flexibility at all. And the LIVE draft portion is a joke.... you could virtually skip me the entire time and it wouldn't have much of an affect on my team.
Having all 1's defensively, 500AB/200IP live draft requirement, plus teams can limit your options by protecting 10 players... all fine ON THEIR OWN MERITS.... combined together with an 80M cap and it seems somewhat overbearing.
[/quote:94b4202125]
I think some feel that the $60M league we had was tough on them, as is the $125M team, or the OPS limit rule. I personally thought the $60M league was much tougher, especially having to have 10 guys from one carded roster, but that was the rule. I'm pretty sure that if you were a team that wasn't stockpiled with high-priced talent that generally played their entire careers with same team (i.e. the Yankees) this argument would not be quite as vehement.
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by novie » Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:05 pm
I have no problem with using any cap, and have had no issue with the sets of rules... what I dilsike vehemently is the fact that I am being given little to no choice in any approach that I take because these rules DICTATE the makeup of my roster to a degree that is unacceptable.
[quote:f9d29ba3c2]I think some feel that the $60M league we had was tough on them, as is the $125M team, or the OPS limit rule.[/quote:f9d29ba3c2]
But each of these allowed for choice and options. A manager could make up for certain shortcomings by accentuatiing other aspects of their teams.
[color=red:f9d29ba3c2]21% of my cap is spent on 2 players that I am FORCED to use and that don't fit the ballparks. Of course, I do have the OPTION of using a one sided +3 arm in CF in a defense, speed themed league :roll: [/color:f9d29ba3c2]
So yeah, I have an issue with this... and rightfully so. There is no ability to create anything when you are stuck like that. Each of the rules are fine, the combination of them plus the cap is the issue.
And the fact that all the rules apparently can't be adhered to by every team.... and if that is the case, then this set of rules is moot.
[quote:f9d29ba3c2]I think some feel that the $60M league we had was tough on them, as is the $125M team, or the OPS limit rule.[/quote:f9d29ba3c2]
But each of these allowed for choice and options. A manager could make up for certain shortcomings by accentuatiing other aspects of their teams.
[color=red:f9d29ba3c2]21% of my cap is spent on 2 players that I am FORCED to use and that don't fit the ballparks. Of course, I do have the OPTION of using a one sided +3 arm in CF in a defense, speed themed league :roll: [/color:f9d29ba3c2]
So yeah, I have an issue with this... and rightfully so. There is no ability to create anything when you are stuck like that. Each of the rules are fine, the combination of them plus the cap is the issue.
And the fact that all the rules apparently can't be adhered to by every team.... and if that is the case, then this set of rules is moot.
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by AeroDave10 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:42 pm
[quote:ec890ff453="Novie"]
[color=red:ec890ff453]21% of my cap is spent on 2 players that I am FORCED to use and that don't fit the ballparks. [/color:ec890ff453]
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This is not true. While there is just one option at 3B, there are several CF options. Being forced to play a particular person at a position is also required by rule in Event 6.
I also wonder how "fair" it is that the Yankees (without any service time requirements) have access to 174 pitchers, while the Twins have access to just 109 pitchers, and that every other team besides the Cardinals has access to no more than 152 pitchers. The same goes for the hitters, to a lesser extent. Some franchises have distinct advantages and disadvantages. That's why SOM requires managerial skill as well as luck and circumstance.
[color=red:ec890ff453]21% of my cap is spent on 2 players that I am FORCED to use and that don't fit the ballparks. [/color:ec890ff453]
[/quote:ec890ff453]
This is not true. While there is just one option at 3B, there are several CF options. Being forced to play a particular person at a position is also required by rule in Event 6.
I also wonder how "fair" it is that the Yankees (without any service time requirements) have access to 174 pitchers, while the Twins have access to just 109 pitchers, and that every other team besides the Cardinals has access to no more than 152 pitchers. The same goes for the hitters, to a lesser extent. Some franchises have distinct advantages and disadvantages. That's why SOM requires managerial skill as well as luck and circumstance.
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by novie » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:36 pm
Well, found 3 more... a .5, a .85, and a 2.54.... don't like them, but it atleast provides options... and that I can live with.
However, the issue of someone playing a non- 1 rated fielder leaves something to be addressed. If there is even one team that must do this, then every team MUST have the same option or the rule is not being adhered to.
However, the issue of someone playing a non- 1 rated fielder leaves something to be addressed. If there is even one team that must do this, then every team MUST have the same option or the rule is not being adhered to.
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by buster j ratt » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:36 pm
Blair is one I know Don't know if he is protected Right now my LF will be worth about.6 unless someone releases someone who is protected No other options
Also of note I picked the 60 mil cap because I thought it would benefit me not the other 11 managers It was my turn I guess I was a little wrong as I lost my last game 9-1 but it was game 7 of the finals
Also of note I picked the 60 mil cap because I thought it would benefit me not the other 11 managers It was my turn I guess I was a little wrong as I lost my last game 9-1 but it was game 7 of the finals
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