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Postby PotKettleBlack » Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:17 pm

Still not getting the difference between a Chevy and a Caddy.

Caddy cards... massive research.
Chevy cards... mass produced, with a formula to make the stats work.
Chevy cards get crammed into advanced use, even though they aren't really optimized for ADV or SADV.
They are still made by SOM.

I can posit one theory on why a card here is difference from an actual card or a computer version card, particularly when it's a Chevy card. Formula writes the card one way for the computer. Formula does a different bit of rounding for the card or SN, produces a different, though not much weaker or stronger card.

Purists believe the cards are written in stone. Realists understand that the difference between a SI** on 1-6 and a SI** on 3-8 is negligible, if it exists at all.
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Postby Mr Baseball World » Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:24 pm

Trim: Why would the company that has for all these years taken pride in its accuracy turned over to TSN the right to make its own cards and pass them off as Strat cards?
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Postby JAMESOSSWALD » Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:37 pm

[quote:f104b4e348="Mr. Baseball World"]Trim: Why would the company that has for all these years taken pride in its accuracy turned over to TSN the right to make its own cards and pass them off as Strat cards?[/quote:f104b4e348]

I would just be guessing at that answer. Maybe the money was good. Because of the pride and accuracy I am personally surprised that Strato made super advanced cards for the computer even though they never researched the cards.
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Postby JAMESOSSWALD » Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:38 pm

[quote:1feaf434bd="PotKettleBlack"]Still not getting the difference between a Chevy and a Caddy.

Caddy cards... massive research.
Chevy cards... mass produced, with a formula to make the stats work.
Chevy cards get crammed into advanced use, even though they aren't really optimized for ADV or SADV.
They are still made by SOM.

I can posit one theory on why a card here is difference from an actual card or a computer version card, particularly when it's a Chevy card. Formula writes the card one way for the computer. Formula does a different bit of rounding for the card or SN, produces a different, though not much weaker or stronger card.

Purists believe the cards are written in stone. Realists understand that the difference between a SI** on 1-6 and a SI** on 3-8 is negligible, if it exists at all.[/quote:1feaf434bd]

The card shown by SN is different than the card produced by SOM. Even if the computer is not programmed for the card I would think they would still show the same card.
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Postby JAMESOSSWALD » Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:40 pm

Question. What year was all the baseball seasons available for the CD rom game?
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Postby PotKettleBlack » Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:47 pm

[quote:6bf2be7e8f="trimhunter"][quote:6bf2be7e8f="PotKettleBlack"]Still not getting the difference between a Chevy and a Caddy.

Caddy cards... massive research.
Chevy cards... mass produced, with a formula to make the stats work.
Chevy cards get crammed into advanced use, even though they aren't really optimized for ADV or SADV.
They are still made by SOM.

I can posit one theory on why a card here is difference from an actual card or a computer version card, particularly when it's a Chevy card. Formula writes the card one way for the computer. Formula does a different bit of rounding for the card or SN, produces a different, though not much weaker or stronger card.

Purists believe the cards are written in stone. Realists understand that the difference between a SI** on 1-6 and a SI** on 3-8 is negligible, if it exists at all.[/quote:6bf2be7e8f]

The card shown by SN is different than the card produced by SOM. Even if the computer is not programmed for the card I would think they would still show the same card.[/quote:6bf2be7e8f]

If the underlying card is different, because the formula produced it differently, wouldn't you expect the computer generated card to display differently?

I would. Actually, I do, because the cards that display are data driven by the underlying card. Else the Card Reader script wouldn't work.
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Postby Mean Dean » Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:47 pm

[url=http://www.snarlfb.com/bball/features_v16.html]Here is a chart for you[/url], that summarizes which seasons have which features, and when they were released. (Among many other things, note that most "Chevy" seasons were released in 1998, before there was a TSN game.)
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Postby JAMESOSSWALD » Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:48 am

[quote:0f4b289331="PotKettleBlack"][quote:0f4b289331="trimhunter"][quote:0f4b289331="PotKettleBlack"]Still not getting the difference between a Chevy and a Caddy.

Caddy cards... massive research.
Chevy cards... mass produced, with a formula to make the stats work.
Chevy cards get crammed into advanced use, even though they aren't really optimized for ADV or SADV.
They are still made by SOM.

I can posit one theory on why a card here is difference from an actual card or a computer version card, particularly when it's a Chevy card. Formula writes the card one way for the computer. Formula does a different bit of rounding for the card or SN, produces a different, though not much weaker or stronger card.

Purists believe the cards are written in stone. Realists understand that the difference between a SI** on 1-6 and a SI** on 3-8 is negligible, if it exists at all.[/quote:0f4b289331]

The card shown by SN is different than the card produced by SOM. Even if the computer is not programmed for the card I would think they would still show the same card.[/quote:0f4b289331]

If the underlying card is different, because the formula produced it differently, wouldn't you expect the computer generated card to display differently?

I would. Actually, I do, because the cards that display are data driven by the underlying card. Else the Card Reader script wouldn't work.[/quote:0f4b289331]

No, I would not. I believe the card is just a visual and nothing more than a visual.
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Postby JAMESOSSWALD » Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:51 am

[quote:aeaeb50bcf="DeanTSC"][url=http://www.snarlfb.com/bball/features_v16.html]Here is a chart for you[/url], that summarizes which seasons have which features, and when they were released. (Among many other things, note that most "Chevy" seasons were released in 1998, before there was a TSN game.)[/quote:aeaeb50bcf]

Based on that chart you posted, and you or maybe someone else explaining the chevy seasons, I am willing to accept your point of view for many(possibly all) of the players I previously thought were made by SN.
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Postby Palanion » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:56 pm

Trim,
As an avid SOMer for decades, though not as long as you, I can tell you that SOM has made a split side (adv or sadv) of every player card for every season for the computer. And every year they release at least one past season as an upgraded Caddy, which includes c&d (cards and dice).
In fact, the lead researcher for Caddy seasons has announced work on 1958, 1973, and 1938, with 1958 probably being released this winter and 1973 some time later in 2012.
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